"It is not Trump—just as it was not Biden or Harris—who decides what the Palestinians can or cannot do," Abandon Harris' Hudhayfah Ahmad told Newsweek.
Everyone of these dumb fucks can just go shut the fuck up. They are one of the main reasons for the Trump victory. All of them knew Trump would be worse, but they were all too fucking stupid to just go with the least bad option. Kamala was not a good candidate, but she was better than Trump in every facet.
Democracy died a long, long time ago. The options were preservation of our neoliberal corporate order, or fascism. The status quo died in 2016 and Dems are hodling hard until I'm guessing America is a completely hollow husk of its former self. But at least they played fair!
If voting were mandatory this would never have been the result.
Saying people deserve to be put in camps because they try to stay sane living paycheck to paycheck is kind of a little bitch take on this whole situation
Their rhetoric and decision to not vote for the only viable non Trump candidate is plenty reason to blame. They aren't as bad as people that directly voted for him, but they are the next worst thing and the difference between is borderline indiscernible.
The area was levelled under Biden. There would be zero restraint either way. The limiting factors are the groups actually fighting against the genocidal American Empire and its pet rabid dog.
who ever thought trump would be better for palestinians is dumb asf. not saying harris would have done a good job since it seems no president will take their side.
The situation in Palestine is going to get worse under trump, but then things were also getting worse while under Biden too. There is no winning for Palestinians because the plan is for Israel to take over the entire area. Policy over partisanship, as AIPAC puts it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlKmWa8p4UM
People always start taking the status quo for granted eventually. On one hand, Trump might actually end the Palestinian genocide. Just, not in the way they want.
1: These aren't people that refused to vote for a lesser evil. They're Trump voters. Willing greater evil supporters.
2: There's a difference between blaming them for the loss over, you know, Democratic mismanagement and the conservative base being fascists in general.
3: Interesting that that wasn't immediately obvious to you. All Muslims that don't Vote Blue No Matter Who are equal in your eyes? You can hardly tell them apart!
Not really.
October 7th was a massive overplay on the part of Hamas. They launched a state level military invasion into Israel. In the hopes of a better prison swap. It was an absolute disaster for the people of Palestine as well the Hamas and it's backers.
Hamas is effectively ended as well as the support networks in neighboring countries that were helped by Iran.
There is no longer a state level actor in the region effectively supporting military action. It will take years before anything effective can happen on the ground.
There is no longer a state level actor on the ground supporting humanitarian action.
Now is very different than before. This is not the same old same old that had been going on for a long time. The status quo has changed and there is a very real possibility that Palestine will vanish.
Not to mention, Trump is a peacetime president. He's ending the Ukraine War and the Israel Palestine War day 1week 1whenever convenient committing US troops to Gaza to commandeer the land and redevlop it as a US territory, while also threatening to take over the Panama Canal, Greenland, and to annex Canada, and requesting Zelensky allow Putin to ravage Ukrainian land and likely install puppet govt while prosecuting any Ukrainian loyalists as the Russians see fit.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio wrote on X: "Gaza MUST BE FREE from Hamas. As @POTUS shared today, the United States stands ready to lead and Make Gaza Beautiful Again. Our pursuit is one of lasting peace in the region for all people."
Ahmad, the spokesperson for the Abandon Harris campaign and a Palestinian activist, also said: "Despite the entire world being against them, Palestinians have proven that they will be victorious. They are returning to their homes and living among the rubble—people like that cannot be defeated. That is not a matter of opinion; it is a fact."
The level of cope is just so hard here.
I bet this face must be extra tasty for the leopards.
Such a hateful comment. It’s not even about American voters. The quote you pull here is about human people living through unimaginable torment and loss and you call it “cope.”
Muslims were a key swing vote in key swing states like Michigan and Wisconsin.
More importantly, the dems might have actually won if they had taken this opportunity to show that they were capable of listening to and learning from their constituents.
Trump demonstrated that he could grow and adapt from his previous term while the dems insisted on dictating terms and asserting that everything was fine without room for criticism or growth.
This is proven by the data. Every poll on the subject reflected the sentiment that, had Harris split from Biden on Israel-Gaza, more would vote Harris. This was known before the election. This data was ignored. People were screaming for their rights up to the last second. Many (not all) still voted Harris. And now they are getting screamed down for still having the gall to express their anger at humans being treated as animals. It feels hopeless. The white moderate liberal has no shame or empathy.
If the Palestinian vote was enough to sway the election, then the amount of Jewish people who would have done the same if any presidential candidate came out in strong support of Palestine, has to be at least an order of magnitude higher.
I am not equating the two positions, I am simply talking about campaign strategy.
I don't think you understand the stranglehold that the Israel lobby has on US politics.
All of the talk of civil rights being America's priority has fallen short in the face of our economic priorities and our proclivity to agitate for war.
We have designed a society where empathy is scarce. A society overworked and without the bandwidth for most to process how their actions impact people on the other side of the globe.
Sometimes you've gotta skip out on the bullshit to live life and learn for yourself. All of these increases in productivity, and yet we have less and less time to be human and stitch together our society.
To everyone calling them stupid. What exactly should they have done in this situation? What is the better solution when your only options are death or a faster death?
Vote blue and send huge amounts of letters and phone calls to your Congress people telling them to stop supporting this. Run new candidates under the Democratic party that push them further left.
Sounds impossible? Yes. People were force fed propaganda and gave up this election, because its a hard choice. There is no easy route. Its either revolution or try to change a party to something better. There is no option 3.
People told the centrists, I told my friends for fucks sake. I know someone who stayed home saying their vote didn't matter and both sides are evil. I told them that is a vote for Trump.
They were right. Their vote didn't matter because trump won by a landslide in our state. But what if they, and thousands of their compatriots, weren't force fed propaganda on Facebook and TV?
The republicans won because of coordinated attacks that presented centrists with multiple trolley problems. I held out hope until the end, but I should have known what was going to happen when some reasonably intelligent people fell for it.
they could have shut up and never expressed emotion or dissent at the deplorable level of dignity stripping they were subject to.
that’s the genuine answer. that’s what white liberals would have preferred.
and now they are getting shouted down by those liberals for still advocating for their own rights. many still even voted harris. it’s truly heartbreaking. america is so racist even the rise of fascism is blamed on brown people.