Bill proposed to outlaw downloading Chinese AI models.
Bill proposed to outlaw downloading Chinese AI models.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/25011462
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Decoupling America’s Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act of 2025’’.
SEC. 3. PROHIBITIONS ON IMPORT AND EXPORT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OR GENERATIVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY OR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
(a) PROHIBITION ON IMPORTATION.—On and after the date that is 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the importation into the United States of artificial intelligence or generative artificial intelligence technology or intellectual property developed or produced in the People’s Republic of China is prohibited.
Currently, China has the best open source models in text, video and music generation.
I could understand banning closed source models but open sourced models that work better than anything propriety isn't that just the free market that corporations like to pretend to be part of?
Define "open sourced model".
The neural network is still a black box, with no source (training data) available to build it, not to mention few people have the alleged $5M needed to run the training even if the data was available.
Define “open sourced model”.
The term itself is actually shockingly simple. Source is the original material that was used to build this model, training data and all files that are needed to compile and create the model. It's Open Source, if these files are available (preferably with an Open Source compatible license). It's not. We only get binary data, the end result and some intermediate files to fine tune it.
They were only for the free market if they could force it on others.
It's also the free market for those corporations to buy a government and use it to outlaw competition.
I love how we're now the crumbling evil empire trying to ban their way out of the present.
yeah, it really seems that way. close the borders so that the future can't get it. i love that, i must remember it.
So, I'm just kind of curious how this would even work. Lots of people in the US already have Deepseek. If they already have it that's not importing it, is it? What if someone makes a copy of Deepseek from a server that's in the US? Is that importing it? Are we just trying to block future AIs? How is it even supposed to be beneficial to the US for the people working on AI here to have no access to Chinese models, when China can still freely use ours? Won't that just give them an advantage in developing AI?
Honestly, the more I think about this, the dumber it gets, and it was already pretty stupid on a surface level. It'll probably pass though. I don't think anybody in Washington DC is even interested in thinking about the consequences of anything they're doing. It's all pure pageantry.
Just rename the model like they renamed gulf of Mexico.
ShallowReveal
BRB about to make a derivative of this shirt
Gonna need a little higher density barcode lol
I fear I've become something of an accelerationist in the past few days...
yeah, go ahead and pass this, you tech-illiterate xenophobic fucks.
we need to divide and conquer the fascist coalition. make them hate each other. make them consumed by infighting. give them more "oh I didn't realize there would be negative consequences that affected me personally" moments.
there's a whole lot of Silicon Valley techbro types who are on board with Musk and Trump because they think it's all lower taxes, less regulations for their startups, and less "wokeness". go ahead, pass a law that makes it a federal crime for them to click a GitHub download link. make it so that every Hacker News thread about AI is filled with American engineers bemoaning that they're legally prohibited from keeping up with the state-of-the-art. make their startups uncompetitive because they're required by law to pay inflated prices to subsidize OpenAI and other "American-made" plagiarism machines.
Oh ffs. Fuck right off congress.
Can you prevent someone from setting up local instances of Deepseek? It's open source. How would this define Chinese models?
Nobody cares about you and your cheap AI-generated tentacle porn. The point here is at entreprise-level. Businesses will be legally locked down with expensive US vendors, it's all that matters.
Infuriating thing above all that cretin protectionism is that pro use of AI stuff will consume a planet-destroying
1030 times as much energy than needed.They can criminalize downloading it for example.
Streisand Effect engage!
Not really, given the media frenzy surrounding this model.
I lost interest enough to delete the models I had before and this headline made me look into deepseek.
EDIT: Not quite the Streisand Effect considering I already knew about it, but still an unintended source of pressure. Like someone stockpiling before a ban of something, even if they weren't too avid about it before. I've had a similar thought when it comes to taking down free streaming sites.
Though this seems to have traded compute for data, so I don't have the VRAM for it... even running through RAM, I don't feel like downloading a lesser version with my slow-ish internet.
Get your DeepSeek3 and r1 weights before it's illegal!
They would be illegal in the US only, not the rest of the world. Meaning you can get it somewhere else.
Print it on a t shirt!
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Just use a small font. /s
How do they plan to enforce this................
You wouldn't download... a BRAIN?!?!