New "Calexit" bid for California secession approved for signature gathering in effort to put measure on ballot

Can we coordinate with Oregon and Washington to join Canada?

That aside, California leads the US in many ways, but we have a tendency to go too far and do really dumb things. We're pretty good at self congratulations even when other states stare, slack-jawed at our blunders. It's nice to have perspective.

please call it the "New California Republic"

Honestly at this point I feel the US would do great by splitting and becoming a confederation (think EU styles autonomy).

I think the differences are just too big to have a functioning state.

I also understand that the push towards these movements is often done by Russian propaganda, who want to do anything to split up the US and NATO.

For all of the reasons given, secession from the United States is a bad idea. But I'm going to keep banging this drum: The metropolises need to secede from their states, while staying part of the United States. Heck, Los Angeles County alone has more people than 40 of the states. It's about time that they got fair representation.

Lots of peoole didn't read the article

According to the text of the measure, the state would be required to create a 20-member state commission to study California's viability as an independent country in 2027 and to publish a report the following year.
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If the ballot question is approved, the proposal would declare a "vote of no confidence in the United States of America", but would not change the state's government or its relationship with the U.S. The measure would also call for the removal of the U.S. flag from all state buildings.

Y'know, as unrealistic as this (probably? I'm not really sure of anything, anymore) is, seeing this pop up in my scrolling gave me a bit of relief. I've been so terrified and angry and anxious and unsure of the (immediate) future that it's practically paralyzed me. Knowing that this pipedream is there helped me breathe for a moment. I'll take what relief I can get right now.

It would be cool if they actually called themselves the NCR

Okay, but then California becomes a smaller country bordering a much larger fascist neighbor with the largest military in the world.

In what world is that a good outcome?

Sorry California, you will have to negotiate with Colorado and Arizona for your water. So basically you have to take us with you.

🐻New California Republic🐻

Yes, please. As a Californian who is already looking to move abroad, it would be a dream come true for my state to do it for me.

Do NOT fall for this shit, they’ve tried it before. This makes america an easy red majority and that’s the entire point of it. We’re in this together and not going anywhere

God dammit I find this so fucking hilarious. Every time a Republican wins you'll inevitably see an article talking about California is to leave. And on the flip side every time we get a Democrat in office fuckin Texas starts bitching and tryna leave.

I'm not going to say it'll never happen, but I would be willing to bet all the 7 dollars I have to my name that it's not gonna happen.

1. Brexit was clever wordplay, every proposal since hasn't been. Fuckin "Calexit", do better.

2. Yeah, you don't get to just leave a country. Believe it or not, there was actually at least one war about that!

3. Fuck CBS for their cancer ass website.

It's nice to think about taking your ball and going home. However, if we denigrate Texas everytime they threaten to secede we really shouldn't be giving California a pass.

Edit- fix fat finger spelling

Fight for better more fair representation, secession solves nothing.

Something that might work out better and would be a lot easier to do (thought still not very easy), would be to split into 3 (or 4?) states.

California has almost 12% of the US population concentrated in that one state! By far most of the states contain about 2% or less of the US population each.

By splitting, the population would be better represented in the Senate with 6 senators between them instead of only 2, and there might be a net gain in some other benefits that are given on the state level.

edit: I see that someone had already brought this idea up, but IMO it's a good idea that they should seriously consider!

So is this one backed by Russia as well?

I know Cali won't HAVE to, but can they join Canada?

Terrible idea not only for Californians but also the rest of America. Yes California produces a lot and has a huge economy but succeeding would remove almost any big tech headquarters immediately. Silicon valley would be dead. No company is going to willingly pay export fees for every single product they make. They will all move their headquarters somewhere they can freely sell to the other 49 states and force the export fees on California

The additional import/export taxes on top of all the retalitory tariffs that would be placed on the citizens would be crazy.

Itd never happen but secessions not an unpopular opinion whenever it's mentioned here, only republicans that have repeatedly said they want to leave and move out hate the idea for some reason

Good for them

Think they'll accept refugees from other states of they go? I'm not exactly the most fit, but I'd join their military or fight their fires if it gets me some actual freedom.

Shit my CA driver's license expired. Does that mean I'll need to apply for citizenship or will old residents be good?

They could join Denmark

You wanna do it Cali, do it before the iron curtain comes falling down. Shit or get off the pot, ya'll might not get another chance.

CA better get their hands on some ICBMs. Keep one pointed at DC, and another pointed at Mar-a-Lago. It's pretty much the only way a state can keep its sovereignty.

It's a moot point anyway, though, because the ruling post-Civil war (Texas v. White, specifically) determined that unilateral secession was not allowed. In order for California to leave they would either have to come to an agreement with the Federal government to do so (or a majority of all other state legislatures, or something... there's no precedent) or fight a war against the rest of the union and win, forcing capitulation and a concession.

Both possibilities seem extremely remote.

This is only posturing, and even if it passes it is not designed to result in California actually leaving the union.

Weber said proponents must gather 546,651 signatures from registered voters, which is 5% of total votes cast for governor in the 2022 election. Proponents face a deadline of July 22.

I wish they could knock on my door, but the building is secured from visitors. I'll sign if I see someone posted at a table on the sidewalk. I'm done with this shit country.

Please don't leave California. If you do a lot more states will follow and all the vulnerable minorities that were trapped in red states will be trapped in fascist countries.

Plus, you know Trump will invade y'all right? All that US military stuff lying around doesn't suddenly become property of the state. Half the Navy trains in San Diego, you think those bootlickers aren't going to blockade your ports and cut your imports off entirely?

If anything maybe break up into smaller states?

gsybdkzbayvfisg yes!! balkanize hahahahahah this would be hilarious please

Putin wins

Join the EU and NATO, let's see how it plays out!

The remaining Blue States should do the same. Common sense should prevail and it would allow the MAGAts to create their racist neo-Nazi White Christian slave run utopia dictatorship without resistance from those who support the US Constitution.

This is stupid and a pointless gesture. Do something more productive with your time.

Do they join Mexico?