Saw a video about this on Mastodon. It looks like they projected a whole video presentation that outlines a bunch of the Nazi shit Musk has done, not just the image of his salute.
A bigger, louder '0' is still equal to 0, but with more wasted effort to boot. The question is why Berliners still like Naziism enough to leave that building standing is what I wonder when they shine a projector on it for a day and call it anything. I would say they're doing a lot more to waste effort, energy, optics, and time than being on lemmy.
Tesla, skinny and in nerd heaven getting to be part of nerd ghost orgies where he would do it with 5 or 10 of the most beautiful, clever and knowledgeable nerd babes...play nerd beard games...he probably saw Elon, like all of us did back in the early 2000's, and said " hmmm what a wonderful guy, I'm so proud of what he's accomplishing in my name! But now, after countless rolls in his grave, he's just taking it one day at a time. During the last orgy...Tessy! Touch my beautiful round and curvy monopoly figures please!... Hold on, Elon just did a Nazi salute!...oh my God!... Tesla, you called? Yeah, did you see what Elon did again? Yeah another Nazi salute! I just called hell and they are sharpening the glass ping-pong balls... Oh those? No, they don't play ping pong, those go up his butt where they break. It's a first day thing..... He's due there when he turns 93. Yeah we're going with a pretzel. Its funny as heck, that's why!
Don't worry Catholic flying daddy is all over this. By the time Elon turns 93...must be divisible by 33... He'll choke on a magic pretzel and die a very funny death... Like if you were watching thru binoculars, it would be funny...WTF is Elon doing now? Practicing his Nazi salute? Keeps pounding his chest for some reason, and pointing at his mouth! But he's literally eating! That's a couple of awkward gestures, don't you think?
This is fake though. The letters don't match and there is no other pic on the Internet to prove, it happened. But the fact it seems real, speaks volumes :D
Edit: Turns out not fake. I was just skeptical at first.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that Tesla had a sign that says "heil" in Tesla's font manufactured and installed on their factory next to their name. It's a projection by a protestor to draw attention to Musk's Nazism.
Yeah. It looks like that in the first place, but no. I am just skeptical of blurry images on the internet. I distrust anything I see, until some more evidence is provided.
@Saurok@lemm.ee & @m0darn@lemmy.ca I see the news article and see the logic behind it, but this can't possibly be the only pic out there. I am not denying Elon isn't Nazi. He definitely is and everything he touches is now, lightly put, tainted.
But there has to be another angle or even a video. Just a single blurry pic immediately seems suspicious to me.
I'm pretty sure they have explicitly come out and said that the gesture was what we all know it to be. I'm sure the Internet can verify it for you though
There's plenty of "fair use" cases which would allow it.
§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:
art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
scientific research
education
news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)
And probably applying in this case - in protesting said anti-constitutional organizations, for example a crossed out Swastika as a form of protest against Nazis is still very much legal.
Most important is the intent. If you plan to use those symbols with the intent of furthering the ideology of anti-constitutional organizations, it is probably forbidden. The intention has to be clearly against those organizations, otherwise it might be actionable.
Btw the communist party of Germany, the KPD is also considered an anti-constitutional organization and therefore it's symbols are forbidden in the same way.
§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:
art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
scientific research
education
news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)
Which is funny because the video game series Wolfenstein famously had to change all of their in-game imagery. The series is about killing Nazis, but it was banned in Germany until the game devs removed all of the swastikas. Because apparently showing the swastika is banned, even when it’s used explicitly to say “these are the bad guys.”
Does "anti-constitutional" mean against the German constitution specifically, or the concept of constitutions? If the former, prohibiting ideas of government other than the active one is a pretty strict restriction on speech. I totally get the desire to outlaw imagery supporting Nazism because no one wants that shit to come back, but lumping communism in there too seems a bit strange. Or maybe I'm just totally misunderstanding what you said.
It's not exactly uncommon for systems set up to oppose something to end up supporting them instead. See the ADL covering for Elon and condemning those opposed to genocide as antisemitic. In theory the ADL should be opposed to fascism, but because Israel has become fascist they found themselves on the same side as those who had been and would be their oppressors.
I'm guessing, he'll stop paying his workers, surround the factories with barbed wire so they can't escape and tattoo numbers on them to easier keep track of what they are doing.