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Russian soldier admits proudly his comrades were killing POWs

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Russian soldier admits proudly his comrades were killing POWs

euromaidanpress.com /2023/08/20/russian-soldier-admits-proudly-his-comrades-were-killing-pows/

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Wow the sheer lack of self-recognition in this guy... Dude, you ARE the Nazi that you pretend to be fighting against. It doesn't matter if you're American or Russian, you 'proud boys' are all the same.
What the fuck...
- War is ugly. That's probably happening on both sides. You try not killing a guy that's was shooting to kill you.
  
  POWs typically aren't shooting to kill you
  
  Got any testimony from Ukraine soldiers saying they kill POWs?
  Until you do, gtfo with "they're probably both doing it"
  
  I served in Iraq. Shooting an unarmed combatant is murder.
When are you guys going to abandon this tankie infested shit hole of a world news sub and go to another one?
- Wouldn't they just move to whatever the new Community is? I think you either need to convince your instance to defederate, join something like Beehaw, or create your own instance if you don't want to see those comments.
  
  The world news sub on .world doesn't have this issue, probably because the mods deal with genocide deniers there. It's good to remember .ml has been here since the beginning and most of the /c/'s here were created when basically a majority of users were tankies
Spamming the same fake news?
We need a rule against posting nazi websites and yes, this is a nazi website and no, the Russians aren't the bad guys
- Yes, you're right. There is no bad thing in killing and raping women, children and elder people, and there is no bad thing in bombing kindergartens, hospitals, and even theaters with the word "ДІТЕИ" written at the front.
  
  Russians are not the ones waving SS symbols around, that's the Ukrainian Nazis, it's also the Ukrainians who are the ones attacking ethnic minorities and supporting dictators in the Middle-East
- Do you have proof they are Nazis?
  
  Nazis famously elect Jewish leaders, so there's one
A couple of things to ponder:
Assume true. What would Putin say or do to this soldier if they were to meet? Publicly? Privately?
Assume a Ukrainian soldier has done the same. What would Zelenskyy say or do to his soldier? Publicly? Privately?
Think about those for a while. What will people of all priorities (pro-Russia, pro-Ukraine, anti-conflict, etc.) think about the decisions that are made and things that are said?
I don't have the answers to these questions, but know what my guesses would be and I can see people of either side of this conflict giving any one of the possible answers and justifying it either way.
e.g. Imagine Putin has his soldier court-martialled and shot; Some pro-Russians will proclaim this a strong move. Others will say that he should not have done that because those Ukrainians deserved to be murdered and the soldier did the right thing. Likewise if Putin was to throw this soldier in prison, some might say it wasn't enough and others might say that he shouldn't even be in there. (NB: I don't believe anyone deserves to be murdered. Ukrainian or Russian. This is all hypothetical.)
Alternatively, we might have Putin outwardly congratulate this soldier. This would be an internationally unpopular move, more-so than having the soldier shot, because the West kind of expects Putin to "deal with" people who make him look bad, but some pro-Russians would proclaim it a strong move. Others will think that it was a bad idea but say nothing.
Zelenskyy might have his own soldier court-martialled and shot. If he is truly interested in aligning with the West as Russia fears, he probably wouldn't do this. He'd instead have the soldier tried in court, and if found guilty, possibly even turned over to Russia if it could be guaranteed the soldier was going to be imprisoned for his crimes and not tortured or shot.
Would Russia consider turning over their own POW murderers to Ukraine? Probably not. They don't recognise Ukraine.
It would be nice if they did though. If they realised where their soldiers and tanks were they might be able to get them out of there and this conflict would be over. Enough lives have been lost to make up for any transgressions either way at this point.
Yes, American soldiers would never do such things. They are distributing bananas and chocolate during war times to POW, have a lot of occasions to do so during the last decades.
- What do American soldiers have to do with this? That is not even a good whataboutism.
What is a "POW"?
- Prisoner of war.
  
  Thankyouu
Euromaidan press, truly the pinnacle of modern journalism
- Yes. Denigrating a group of men taken as prisoners of war is a great comparison to executing them. They are obviously the same things and are expressly valid excuses from war crimes.

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