Climate extremists

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Climate extremists - Dave Walker

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yeah, but...
- I can't even...
- Guess we’ll just have to deal with things being slightly more inconvenient for awhile then, or we’ll be dealing with an inhospitable planet otherwise.
  
  and for many what we do have is still cost prohibitive.
  only because profit is prioritised by a handful of people over the wellbeing of the planet and everyone on it, not because there is an actual lack of money (or even need for it, but I digress) to pay for these things.
  
  This has not been true ever, nor is it a reason to avoid replacing what can be replaced for cheaper.
Might be a hot take, but I for one think we should be far more extremist in our climate fight against corporations.
Just yesterday I was thinking about how I can't open my window for the weekend because of the smoke in the air. This thought process is fucking insane when you step back and think about it, but yet it's becoming our daily lives. No window day today -> no outside day -> oh we only go out at night now etc. Progression is slow so we get used to the hindrances we have to live with.
My main point: if you’re going to go after ‘climate extremists’, make sure it’s the ones who don’t care about your children’s future, not the ones trying to do something about it.
Agreed. It's an important thing to remember.
Yes but think of the profits
- The short-term-profit-only plan:
I'm fine with eco-terrorists when they target fossile stuff. I'm very much not fine when they target nuclear, public electricity companies, or even GMO research.
I get it, but ... all anyone accomplishes by barricading a road to protest oil is pissing off people trying to get to work so they have a roof over their heads and don't starve. They're not going to think, Oh! Well! I'd better change my ways! I'll just spend this tens of thousands of dollars I don't have lying around on an EV (which won't solve climate change anyway), take the fuck-all existent public transit (in North America), or walk 20 miles to work every day!
They're as much victims to the system you are.
- people trying to get to work
  yes! The point of protest is to inconvenience the owning class, which this achieves, well recognised!
- I mean you could take the bike just those few days, plenty of people do it all year round for 20 miles.
  
  In all seriousness, I can't see how that's realistic in anything but ideal climate if you need to maintain a professional appearance. Either you get to work as a blob of sweat and stank because it's hot outside, or you get to work as a blob of sweat and stank because it's cold as fucking balls and you need to have twenty layers of clothes so the outside doesn't literally kill you in 30 seconds.
  
  For a lot of people in the US, the only way to work is by freeway/highway. Biking that is not an option.
  In the same places, public transit is often terrible/nonexistent/actually dangerous as well.
  It's really an infrastructure problem, but getting people to invest more in public infrastructure is extremely difficult, and that's ignoring the extremely inefficient spending at the government level.
- if they got out of the car and sat on the road too it would be over in one day