In a conversation with AfD leader Alice Weidel on X, Musk concurred with her assertion that Adolf Hitler was a communist and pushed disinformation about migrants coming into the US.
I gotta think of the ridiculous Simpsons clip with McBain where he said: “COMMI NAZIS” And it was funny because of how ridiculous it is to have a communist Nazi
I think it's very possible that he doesn't actually believe this, but instead wishes that his fans, who are always so eager to kiss his ass do, since in the eyes of most people, Hitler was the most horrible person to ever exist, and if Hitler was a communist that'd mean that communists are horrible people.
On the other hand, Muskrat is so stupid that him honestly believing this isn't impossible.
This assumes Elon is being genuine. He is not. Same as Trump. All the bullshit they spout is about manipulation of their supporters and not about being genuine about their beliefs.
To quote wikipedia : The first [concentration] camp was Nohra, established on 3 March 1933 in a school.
The number of prisoners in 1933–1934 is difficult to determine; historian Jane Caplan estimated it at 50,000, with arrests perhaps exceeding 100,000. Eighty per cent of prisoners were members of the Communist Party of Germany and ten per cent members of the Social Democratic Party of Germany.
This obviousy proves Hitler had tens of thousands of communists imprisonned in concentration camps to hide the fact that he secretly was a communist/socialist ! /s
Is this the whole "Nazis were socialists because it's in the name" thing again? The far right love to pull this point out, ignoring the fact that as soon as he had power, Hitler had anyone remotely socialist in the Nazi party murdered so he could get on with the fascism. The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board. Anyway, it figures that Musk thinks Hitler was too left wing, since Musk thinks the whole universe is too left wing. And it's characteristic of Musk that being to the right of Hitler doesn't even give him pause.
The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board.
Sort of. Hitler didn't found the party, he joined it as a mole in order to spy on it for the military. He ended up doing a lot more than most moles, eventually taking it over and expelling the more socialist (though still racist) founders.
Hitler hated socialists and tried to change the name as soon as he took over, but was convinced to keep the name because it had become a popular brand.
Pretty big difference though, the Nazis specifically targeted "Judeo-bolshevism" and were formed specifically to combat rising Communist sympathies and organization.
Conflicts between Communist orgs usually arose from incompatible differences in principle, such as whether or not to support such and such Socialist org, and usually the fighting isn't based on extermination like it was in Nazi Germany with the Night of Long Knives.
They can agree as much as they want. They can agree to suck each other's cocks too.That doesn't change the facts. Stupid people remain stupid people.Populism remains populism Stop listening to them.
Yeah, all the comments he made about the secret agenda of European jews to spread "judeobolshevism" through communist organizations and annihilate the Aryan race were just jokes about his good friends the communists. Him and Stalin were actually best buddies.
It's telling that it needs the second sentence you wrote for me to realize you were speaking about Hitler, not Elon. I don't say he's gone of that far, but it wouldn't have supposed me at all.
The problem isn’t the Elon and co say this. It’s the middle ground people who, for the most part, are reasonable but have little education about politics, and don’t want to participate beyond soundbites.
In this case, the phrase works on two levels.
Most of these people would admit Hitler was bad. So, this reaffirms the statement Communism is bad. Even if they don’t know what Communism is.
For others, Communism is bad. This allows them to hear “We’re not like Hitler” about Elon and Co. They have no idea how bad Elon and Co may be, but at least their not commie pinkos.
The real genius of capitalists has been to persuade the electorate that there are no viable alternatives to capitalism.
Americans: "Hitler wasn't all bad. Sure, he killed some people but not as many as people say. He helped save the economy and even loved animals and children"
Which shows how much they don't know about history. Given that Weidel talked about rather fictious versions of schools in Germany, I'd say that she did not spend enough time to learn anything worthwhile in there.
Hitler scares right wingers because he turned the colonialism that Western Europe plundered and looted the rest of the world towards Western Europe itself. Lebensraum was settler-colonial, after all. However, right wingers are fascinated by such an idea and wish to replicate it on their terms.
Eh, three arrows isn't really a good source either. Being against Socialism/Communism (one of the arrows in the 3) is a big red flag for attacking claims of Nazis being Socialist. A much better source would be Blackshirts and Reds by Dr. Michael Parenti.
Here's where the arrows come from. Figures that social democrats aren't authoritarians and thus don't like tankies which the KPD very much was. Calling them, at least at that time, "against socialism" is gross libel. (Technically the SPD still hasn't abandoned socialism, at least when you look into their party programme, but new labour etc).
I guess a much bigger red flag is coming from a .ml instance and re-heating "social fascist" rhetoric against SocDems.
...can't believe I'm actually defending the traitor party but it's against tankies so meh.