jointhefediverse.net - Why was Lemmy removed from the list of fediverse alternatives?

That feels like complaints about lemmy.ml specifically more than Lemmy as a software. There's a few instances that defederate lemmy.ml out there.

Lemmy was removed due to:

• reports of how the developers handle certain types of content (post removed, view an incomplete archive)
• the behavior of its creator
• how the sotware itself handles users' privacy.

All valid concerns.

It's almost certainly because of the tankie factory that is .ml and the fact that it's admins are all hard core tankies (including the main dev! And ofc the whole infamous Nutomic transphobe incident)

Coupled with the fact that a few of the biggest communities are on .ml does not bode well.

That's why I keep calling for a general boycott against posting content or comments on .ml communities.

.ml doesn't want growth, they want a tankie echo chamber, if anybody wants to actually see Lemmy grow at a healthy pace it starts with shuning the hostile tankies and their instances.

The reasoning they give is ludicrous. That's idiotic as saying because someone put up a pedophile website, Apache is the devil. Even if Apache were built by NAMBLA, if it's opensource and doesn't randomly insert pictures of naked kids into your website, how does the developer matter to the product?

This is so stupid. Did everyone stop using ballpoint pens because the inventor was a nazi? No.

Could you, like, maybe post the explanation we're supposed to be discussing for context instead of making us go search for it?

"I'm gonna stop using GNU/Linux because I don't like Richard Stallman"

It's valid to dislike the devs (I disagree, I've found them nothing but courteous, and have read their posts with interest), but it's ridiculous to exclude their software from this list.

Valid concern imo, Dev's are just dickheads

I wrote this before

I spotted Dessalines posted literal propaganda on some community I joined

gotta be honest that does not sit well with me

Wow that change is from June 2023.

It’s just a random person that registered a domain. Be the change you want to see and make your own?

It has mbin and piefed on the list, so it’s not harming the network at all. If anything it’s more healthy with more platforms rather than just ml and world. It’s one site directing people to the fedi, I’m not butthurt about it

So, I should quit Lemmy now too?

to anyone looking for somewhere other than Lemmy I'd like to suggest mbin. I'll admit it's not perfect (especially on mobile, interstellar is decent but it's the only app and has some bugs) but it handles reddit-style content pretty much the same as Lemmy except for the lack of read-marking on posts. as a bonus, it handles microblogs so you can see those without an account on mastodon or something similar.

But there's mbin which is clearly the SUPERIOR alternative.

Makes sense to me.

hm, raddle.me / postmill looks promising though. is it federated at all? i haven't dived into the code enough yet but i'd love it as an alternative.

ty for this post. Looks like a well-trod ground for most people here, but for newcomers like me the whole conversation was really enlightening and TIL.

Their claims regarding privacy are really not surprising, it's very on-brand for the developer's ideology to eliminate transparency for users in the platform while keeping everything stored and federated in the back end for the ruling elite, which if and when they decide to, become the arbiters of who can and won't see it. They haven't even bothered to provide any form of recourse to contest it, you basically have to go looking for people yourself. At least until mod member lists are made private too.

I fully agree with their decision, Lemmy is transient at best. They could still include Mbin, but why include a loaded deck? Actually, decided to check, yep, they did, kudos to them, they really did think it through.

Downvote all you want, still ain't gonna change that jointhefediverse.net decision (based as fuck) 😂

Yeah watch out for that sotware