Microsoft Bing is trying to spoof Google UI when people search Google.com
Microsoft Bing is trying to spoof Google UI when people search Google.com
Microsoft seems to have rolled out a pretty interesting change that spoofs Google.com UI when you try to find Google when using Bing.com.
Kind of fucked up but tbf Google does similarly shady stuff.
Please just use duckduckgo (or SearX).
SearX is dead; you should use SearXNG now.
I feel like Microsoft is way more shameless about their shady stuff. They've been messing around with impersonating google/chrome for awhile now, they recently had that thing where they would copy all your open chrome tabs, and then when you started your computer it would open edge with all your chrome tabs to trick people into using edge instead.
They aren't afraid of people complaining about them, they are afraid of the government, and they fulfill a hefty amount of contracts for the gov
I would use anything else before DDG, the primary function of it which is searching, generally feels sucky
Why? DDG is fine for search, and the bangs make up for any issues.
Microsoft does so many scammy things when it comes to trying to prevent people from using Chrome/Google. Even though Edge/Bing hasn't caught on, I really think them abusing windows dominate OS position this way should be enough for an antitrust lawsuit.
lol the gall
Usual Microsoft, using shady tactics instead of creating a better product or just focusing on their own thing and respecting user choice. They should grow up sometime.
They seem to pathologically not be able to help themselves, even with products that don't need to be promoted that way. I used Outlook for Android for years because it was actually quite good. Had a multi account inbox view, true dark mode, Galaxy Watch compatibility when those were all rather unusual features. But then they started trying to put Bing search in my long press menu system wide, using Outlook as the Trojan horse to do so, and I just found that too obnoxious
I don't think they can. They would need to rethink their company culture, but because the current one makes big numbers go up, they don't really have to change anything.
User: "Can we get Google?"
Microsoft: "But we already have Google at home!"
The Google at home: [reskinned Bing page]
This is a search engine showing open evidence of skewing results away from true for their own motivations. Slightly comic when it is Microsoft doing it to Google but if they do this so blatantly how else are they more subtly redirecting our searches towards biased or even false results that benefit them and misinform the user.
This is a genius move to keep you from Google search
Seems more like a genius move to get slapped with another antitrust-like lawsuit.
Corps don't give a fuck about an antitrust law suit. In the US, the party that pays the most to jerk off CEOs just got put in charge. Even if it was the other party, who only pays slightly less, the most extreme fines are a slap on the wrist. Hell, come Jam 20th it'll probably a tax write off.
Until the EU levies fines that would kneecap these companies out of business, there is no incentive to change the behavior.
I mean the original lawsuit was for aggressively bundling Internet Explorer and kneecapping other browsers. Which sure sounds a lot like a minor variation on what they've been doing with Edge and Bing for a while now, without consequences. Antitrust enforcement is not something I have a lot of confidence in for the foreseeable future.
Bing/Microsoft are so scummy lately
The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy! But an enemy I like to watch.
lately
The single thing Google did right when they first came out was a clean UI with a search bar on an uncluttered page.
At the time the competitors had search pages cluttered with ads and news. It was so bad you couldn't think.
If Microsoft makes their search nice to look at them it's going to get many more users
DuckDuckGo and Kagi managed to figure this out. Bing is the odd one out.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Honestly, that's actually smart and nobody is hurt here. Google by now is as shit as Bing, so there's nothing wrong with using B instead of G. Let them downvotes come :)
Misleading users is definitely harmful. Since this is obviously done on purpose, I'd say it's malicious.
yeah, you're right, actually. if I have to fit this somewhere in my framework of things, it'd fall in the "dark pattern" box. so per definition it's actually malicious.
It's malicious and I like it. What's more entertaining than watching giants fight?
I see this as an action intended to trick users.
and yet Network Service still makes people use Google + ddg has better search quality
With Net Neutrality gone, these giant tech companies could start bidding to make ISPs make their search engine default and have the other competitors fail to load.
The stupidest thing about this whole entire thing about net neutrality.
The entire reason the FCC was created was to prevent the committee from being governed by the government process to avoid corruption for the exact circumstances we're seeing here
Saying that the Supreme Court and the appeals court has any area of saying what the FCC is legally allowed to do is laughable, as the entire reason for the committee being isolated from the standard Executive Administrative branches was to prevent government overreach like they're doing currently.
This is 1,000% them saying hey you're an isolated committee that we can't touch but you're not allowed to do the one thing that your committee is supposed to do
Corruption all the way to the top. It's the American way, ironically I think the slogan "drain the swamp" works for both parties, as it's clear that the people that are in charge aren't willing to actually uphold the commitment they've made to the people.
Microsoft is a pathetic little husk of a company, what a corny and predatory practice that not even google cares to do if you search other search engines.
The Yes Men have already done it.
We need to get back to real fucking culture jamming. Andy Bichlbaum you're our only hope!
I first became aware of the Yes Men after they apologized for the Dow/Union Carbide disaster in Bhopal. Just wanted to share,
https://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/the_yes_mens_bhopal_hoax
And just when I thought their endless begging couldn't get any more pathetic.
Soon enough they'll tell you a puppy dies every time you launch a non-edge browserIf you’re going to use one of the two, it’s a lot better to be using Bing than Google. At least you stand a chance of finding what you’re looking for with Bing.
I guess? But deception ain't helping anyone
Besides Privacy DDG is wayy better then Google And Bing + It has a better search quality.
I prefer DDG to either as well, but in terms of search quality ... Don't they use Bing search results?
Yes they use Bing but i think they did some adjustments to improve the search quality (Correct me if am wrong)
I disagree with the quality part.
I don't think there's a difference in search quality, but I do really like the bangs and the client-side settings (can completely disable the AI noise, enable dark mode, etc all w/o needing an account).
Agree
I think Kagi is way better, but unluckily it's a paid product. Most of the people will never pay for a search engine.
Yeah :(
Wait, is Microsoft using Google's copyrighted work on their page without authorization? This is going to get pulled so fast they're gonna get whiplash.
Why would they? They can imitate Google's style w/o violating their copyright, it would actually be easier to reinvent the wheel than to try to somehow copy what Google has. It's nothing special, just a bit of padding and margin settings for result cards and whatnot.
which has become a synonym for search engines or finding answers online.
If you’re my age, sure. But it’s crap.
because it's not google we're gonna make it look exactly like google
Eh who cares? You guys act like Google is some helpless infant
Don't worry, "the mushroom will eat the fungus". It may be the other way around, but whatever.
Remember when they proved that bing was just providing google search results?
Like it straight up sent your search query to google search and fed back the results in the bing skin.
Edit: i am uncertain that this is true, after a search i found this article from 2011
This is what i was referring to. I explicitly remember reading this story, either on bbc or somewhere else, back then but i didnt look into it any further at the time.
I have had a quick look around (im in work) and there is a possibility that it was never proven. But i dont have a reliable source to show that at the moment. If anyone wants to fact check, be my guest. But please dont, as another poser did downvote my comment and post images of a google and bing search you did just now as evidence that my claim is false without looking into the validity of my claim.
The link above is from 2011, as i said, and shows what i was claiming.
Just try yourself, the claim is obviously false.
https://www.bing.com/search?pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR&q=bullshit
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=bullshitThe results here are nothing alike.
Her I have the first result on Google being "Prime video", which does not occur on the first page of Bing.
On Bing the first result is Wikipedia English, where Google has Wikipedia Danish as 2nd result, and the English not occuring on first page.spoiler
Remember how much they just announced they were plowing into AI? The Machine Hungers
They should probably just make that the default homepage at this point
It's their right to do so
It's my right to say it's shitty behavior and I look down on it
No one is saying you can't?? Lmao. Needed to get your daily persecution fix did ya. Enjoy it little buddy
I wonder if Google would even bother to do the reverse. Is anyone searching for bing?
Google has such bad results, they would probably figure you wanted the Palmer’s candy.