linuxmemes @lemmy.world dorumon @lemmy.world 2y ago

Flatpak integration is still not great

Its even worse when you force Firefox to use wayland its icon doesn't even show.

Edit: Oh since everyone now is confused; I only have the flatpak version of Firefox installed yet it doesn't use the pinned icon and doesn't even use the firefox icon under wayland at all.

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looks more like a KDE issue rather than a flatpak issue
- I use gnome and it works with custom Icons so 🫥
I use flatpak and I actually like it. It is one of the ways I can get up to date packages on Debian.
- Man up and use unofficial repos that break your system like the rest of us
- The Eclipse flatpack on OpenSuse Tumbleweed works better than the rpm. I was extremely impressed.
I never intend to use a flatpak or snap, and avoid them like the plague. The whole concept is incredibly ugly to me, and wasteful of computer resources.
- The whole concept is incredibly ugly
  
  Depends on the viewpoint. As a software consumer, sure. As a software producer though, not having to deal with with tons of different packaging formats and repositories for different distributions and versions is a blessing.
  
  It wastes resources on the consumer side to free up resources on the developer side, allowing for more time spent on improving the software instead of worrying about millions of different system setup combinations.
  
  Yep lazy developers! That doesn't care about security!
- I don't really understand why you would do anything other than native install unless you really, really need the performance.
  
  Edit: 5 months later and I recognize this was a shit take.
- Agreed
- Yesterday I freed up 6GB of diskspace by uninstalling a single flatpak app and running
  
  flatpak uninstall --unused
  
  Somehow flatpak had grown to fill the disk over the years, my installation is about 5 years old, and I have only used flatpak very sparingly.
I don't get it. Do you have two versions of Firefox installed?
- Don't know about the OP, but I only have one version installed. If I don't have it open, a single icon shows on the task bar. If I press that icon, FF opens and a second icon shows up, that represents only the opened FF, while the original icon remains.
What are you talking about ? isn't the firefox icon on the left a standard app from a distro repo instead of a flatpak like the one on the right ?
- In that particular screenshot I believe you’re right: the one on the left is Firefox ESR while the icon on the right is whatever flatpak version available.
  
  But I know what OP is referring to as it is a open bug currently, the DE don’t doesn’t recognize the launched instance as the pinned program due to the way Flatpak launched apps. Not an issue with Firefox in particular
  
  I actually took the screenshot myself and yes it is a bug* specifically with Flatpak.
- No no I only have the flatpak version of firefox installed yet in my taskbar it doesn't use the pinned icon and on wayland it doesn't have an icon at all.
  
  What distro and desktop environment are you using?
PEBKAC
the only reason to use flatpaks is if your system doesnt come with a good package manager and repositories (pacman+aur, nix, etc), and dont want to build from source.

snaps, on the other hand, should be avoided at all costs imo.
- Or if the repos contain outdated versions of the software. And yes, snaps are cancer, still cannot avoid them. 🥲
  
  true. i kinda meant 'good (package managers and repos)'
- Could you elaborate on snaps? I've used them here and there and people seem to have really strong opinions on snap that I just don't understand.
  
  Tied to proprieatry backend, snap store looks like ass and runs like one, spawns loop devices that mess up the /mnt folder, tied to fake .deb packages that install snaps instead. Basically, a lot of proprieatry nonsense that St. Ignucius frowns upon.
Man, everything works great on my PopOS AMD rig with Wayland.
i have no issues with flatpak, once i found out how to fix gtk scaling and theming issues on kde. here's a link if anyone has those problems as well https://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=135846.
Flatpak works great. I'm sorry you don't know how to use a computer.
- "hey guys, I'm having a problem with my Linux install that doesn't seem very common--"
  
  "YOU'RE STUPID AND I HATE YOU"
  
  this is EXACTLY why Linux gurus have a bad rep. remember the human, for goodness' sake. don't act like you've never run into a strange problem in your entire computing life that required digging deep into some 2003 forum post to solve.
- Same. I would want a Linux system with nothing but Flatpaks. Native packages with tons of unwanted changes and delayed updates can go fuck themselves.
I use the Firefox flatpak on multiple different desktops and distros and I've never seen this issue. All on wayland (no difference on x11 either). Weird.
Just don't use flatpaks... it's a miserable experience all around
(and snaps are somehow even worse)
- based
I'm using KDE + Firefox Flatpak + Papirus Icons and I haven't had this issue (so far). Could it be an icon pack issue or something similar? Otherwise yeah it's either KDE or the flatpak
Is this really a flatpak issue? I've been dealing with this with Firefox periodically for many years, even before flatpak
- I run flatpak firefox and kde wayland and have no such issue
Fedora has yet to make anything that works. That’s why.
Because it is FOSS. Money is always the issue.
the scuffed difference between my normal theming and flatpak theming is the only reason why I despise flatpak. I cannot for t he life of me get it to do what I want it to do. Flatpak containers are also kinda annoying to access
Why don't you use distro's package manager?
The problem "without" flatpak is more than the problem "with" flatpak.
Haven't had this issue on Gnome, might be a KDE specific issue. I really don't use KDE much except on my Steam Deck so I haven't encountered it very often.

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