Security by obscurity is not real.
Not on it's own. But as part of a multi layered approach of does help.
As someone who has professionally done legal reverse engineering. No. No it isn't.
The security you get through vetting your code is invaluable. Closing off things makes it more likely for things to not be caught by good actors, and thus not fixed and taken advantage of by bad actors.
And obscurity does nothing to stop bad actors, if there's money to be had. It will temporarily stop script kiddies though. Until the exploit finds it's easy into their suite of exploits that no one's fixed yet.
It can also be said: security by obscurity is the best scenario for the NSA
Obscurity is not security. Obscurity is the fake sensation of privacy, you are on the hands of the creator.
and on the hands of the NSA
Joke's on you: GNU/Linux isn't Unix to begin with (that's literally what GNU means: "GNU's Not Unix")!
Therefore, MacOS is "the best Unix" only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes ("Unices?" "Unixen?") -- hardly an impressive feat.
BSDs aren't even Unix AFAIK because they didn't bother to pay for the official recognition, despite literally being derived from UNIX. MacOS is pretty much the only UNIX that the average user will actually directly interact with.
" Unic-i "
Unixi
Spit on that thang
Now this is the kind of trolling I sincerely advocate.
Closed source is more secure because the viruses can't see where to get in.
This is why I stick to TempleOS, the only biblically accurate OS. With the power of God and high octane schizophrenia, I'm completely safe.
The main reason why MacOS has less viruses is that it's even more than that. Want to run programs not from the app store? Hope you like a convoluted set of settings you have to go through to install that in the first place.
The second main reason is the constant obsolescence of API.
Any judgment of “best” needs to specify “for what use case?”
I’m a MacOS daily driver, and I think it is the best for most of the use cases that matter to me.
But not all of them. And my use cases could easily change a little bit and make MacOS a miserable choice to stick with.
Everything is a trade-off.
Edit: And as for closed source security, I hope nobody seriously makes that argument anymore, do they?
To quote from a paper on the topic of OS security:
According to the paper [5], windows is the most user friendly and has more hardware compatibility. In terms of security, Linux is the most secure among all OS given that it is an open- source operating system which gives users the ability to customize and implement security patches. As for memory management, macOS is the better option due to its fully integrated virtual memory system which is often on and continuously provides addressable space up to 4 per process. The virtual memory system allocates extra space for swap files on the root file system as a program uses space.
All available OS offer some level of security features such as firewalls, antivirus software, and encryption [6]. macOS has a level of security due to its unique operating system designed specifically for Apple devices with no third-party developers involved. Linux, being open source, is often regarded as more secure than Windows, which is a target of many malware attacks [7].
As for memory management, macOS is the better option due to its fully integrated virtual memory system which is often on and continuously provides addressable space up to 4 per process.
Wow, 4 whole memories per process?!
I don't think this is of interest, this is an article in a student journal, written by one person which seems to be a student too. The quote is weak and cherry-picked.
A quote from the same paper:
Security measures in Linux are slim to none as it is a free OS to download.
Linux is the most secure among all OS given that it is an open- source operating system which gives users the ability to customize and implement security patches.
Imagine trusting folks to keep their stuff up-to-date, though. People get very hostile at the mere suggestion that they need to update when "everything works fine right now, why should I?"
They still do.
Honest question, what does MacOS do better than Linux? The only benefit Mac has, IMO, is their ecosystem, and if you don't use Facetime or iMessage I see no reason to stay on MacOS vs installing something like Linux Mint. My case is a little different, since my Macbook Pro keyboard no longer works UNLESS I am on Linux, but I still much prefer Linux to MacOS in almost every way.
I did a wtf at dude 4 in frame 3 until I realized he was getting punched and not... well.. if you don't see it maybe I'm just net-warped.
i mean, dude 3 of frame 3 has the right expression for someone in that exact situation
Thought he was giving the zucc as well
I'm late and this will get buried, but this really speaks to the difference between the open source / ESR / OSI ideology and the free software / RMS / GNU ideology.
Open source ideology says it is better because it produces better software. If MacOS X was closed source and better it serves as a repudiation of that ideology.
Free software ideology says it is better because denying users any of the four freedoms is an immoral act. If MacOS X was proprietary software and better, it would still be immoral to deny users their freedoms; the ideology is not impacted.
Someone make a virus for his mac
*flames, screaming, sound of glass breaking*
God I love the smell of Usenet in the morning
Former macaddict here
I disagree but this is a funny meme
I still miss that magazine. It was freakin’ awesome.
But everyone knows that Mint is the best Unix. (Secret giggle behind my hand.)
I first resurrected a dead PC with RedHat before the turn of the century, mind, and that thing had UPTIME.
I still have me a massive soft spot for Solaris back in the day, though.
I did the same, in the late 90s, and that computer got h4xx3d in two weeks through a vulnerability in Apache.
That was a really good learning experience.
I ran Apache on a box at work, but it was configured by our insanely intelligent sysadmin. Nothing got past her. Never met a sysadmin as brilliant as her. I don't know how they managed to hire and retain her, but she was given a lot of freedom to run things how she liked - she even had a custom firewall between us and head office!
I also had an insanely cheery yellow iMac G3 at the same time - if it made it through the first ten minutes without crashing it would make it through the day. Somehow its stability and resilience improved over time. Not so my windows PC. If you left that on too long, memleak.dll and slowdown.dll would take over and everything would get shakier and shakier. I never quite got used to only having one button though on the mac.
Mint really is the best :)
Love me some Linux mint.
Lol this comment section is on fire. Irony died in 2015.
People like a good flame war 🤷
Just because one understands trolling doesn't mean it can't be fun to discuss the things the troll brought up.
Especially when it's cold outside.
Thank you, you made a buncha nerds angry and now they're fighting in the comment section >:(
Agreed. Thank you, but sincerely.
Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn't freedom if Apples winning any awards.
It's definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000's.
Is there some twisted definition by which you can argue Windows is UNIX? Just to intensify the violence.
GNU/Unix/NT, as I’ve taken to calling it
Or GUN for short.
Probably. macOS is only Unix by certification because Apple pays a lot of money for that privilege.
Based.
I guess we have different definitions of what "best" means.
Secure from whom? Sure to be more government backdoors in MacOS.
Account made two days go...
Ok, madthumbs. Sure.
did you see 38c3? is there any doubt ios/osx is insecure, hackable and has plenty of rootkits avail? this facebook meme shouldnt trigger any tech savy nerd.
Oh so that's the number I have seen floating around in memes and such. Chsos Com Congress FYI.
So ... the Darwin kernel is insecure? 🧐
I guess Mac does win, interesting.
but does Win Mac?
Burn the witch!
Is macOS more secure than OpenBSD?
App sandbox, SIP, and the Secure Enclave are awesome, but I don’t know how macOS actually compares to the BSDs these days.
My BSD system is one of the most secure in the world.
...I can't get the damned thing to boot up, no way anybody is hacking in
Security is temporary. Nothing is safe.
Closed Source is demonstrably less secure,
Huge numbers of people are constantly testing and reworking open source security.
Once closed source has a bad encryption found or accepts certain strings for SQL Queries, it becomes a feeding frenzy, and the people who set it up never put any counter measures in place because a small team never had any chance of approaching the vast well of human knowledge on security.
Just look at the news: US Government Facility Hacked, Credit Company Hacked, Industrial Plant Hacked, Proprietary Vehicle Hacked, etc.
Bravo, OP, bravo.
SOLARIS 8 IS BEST UNIX
I prefer Windows.
Yes this guy right here. Kill him with hammers....penguin hammers.
I mean, when we're talking about UNIX, yeah MacOS is probably one of the best...
Linux ain't UNIX though...
i guess linux can refer to bsd too
Nah, it's the "best unix" because being one requires paying those SUS bastards.
It can also be said: security by obscurity is the best scenario for the NSA
Unironically agree. I want to write my code, not your configs. The fact that saying it causes purists of every ilk to absolutely lose their fucking minds is a fringe benefit.
