You know the older I get the more convinced I become that humans are really only supposed to mate for like 10 years or so. Just long enough for your kids to be able to fend for themselves before you move on and start a new family.
The average duration for marriage is 7 years before divorce, teens desperately want independence and are sexually mature; I mean evolutionarily it doesn't really make sense for a marriage to last forever.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing, just that the society that we built doesn't really conform to how people actually behave and desire. Probably yet another thing Abrahamic religion ruined for us.
10 years for the children to be able to fend for themselves? Assuming you are married before the first pregnancy, then have a full term birth at 40 weeks, then wait 12 months before the second birth that would put the first child around ... 8 when this hypothetical "ideal" marriage dissolved, and subsequent children even younger.
Which wouldn't make sense at all from an evolutionary standpoint, finding another man to step in as a father is not easy, so much so that there were laws around the care of widows in most societies.
The average marriage duration is only 7 years? Seems its nearly double that here in Australia. I also have two 18 year olds living at home who say they desperately want independence but also don't want to get a job or do dishes, and have the sexual maturity of a potato.
I don't think we are "meant to" have any particular relationship type or length, humans are far too diverse for that.
Edit: Some interesting replies, notably both touch on the concept of "it takes a village" which I agree is something we have sadly lost in most of Western society. I however do not think it is a stand in for long term family units. Instead I think a "village" type of setup takes the pressure off parents and allows for a stronger partnership. The countries with longest marriages are all either countries with multi-generational housing as the norm, or with higher incomes per capita.
And it's a two way street. Don't put expectations on the other of what you don't provide yourself. If the relationship is boring to you, act to make it less boring.
Real talk: I've had this happen a couple of times, and know of many other people who either went through this or believed the same nonsense, with all types and permutations of identities and Southern plumbing between them. And all I'm left with after trying to wrap my head around this thing is a question: can we really blame the people who are doing stuff like this considering Mass Media's been force-feeding us this nonsense from the beginning?
I'm not saying this should imply forgiving the behaviour, not in a million years! I'm just questioning where our collective frustration should be directed.
Only valuing a relationship for the momentary bliss of being close to someone new is a problem of emotional immaturity.
The problem arises when we consider the facts that a person's emotional development depends on parenting, and people tend to partner with others of similar emotional maturity. If you've got one immature parent, you've more than likely got two. It takes extra work to shed that baggage and start being your genuine self.
It's definitely a cultural ill, but I can't credit the notion that our emotional development comes from our media. We need to be teaching people what emotional maturity is, how to get there, and how to heal from having emotionally immature parents.
Emotional immaturity is so pervasive at this point you'd need to put this stuff in the curriculum of every school and have that initiative succeed for multiple decades to change the culture.
My belief is that emotional immaturity is the natural state of humanity. Without guidance, some wise people will reach maturity, but that's really a small subset of the population, and the vast majority of people will not make this growth.
The vast majority of people do things because that's what they've always known; it takes special effort to question why you do what you do. Saying that these people are emotionally immature may be true, but I don't think that the cause is that people have emotionally immature parents. People have to be specifically taught to value rationality and wisdom over vibes and feelings, and without this concerted effort, most people will simply be emotionally immature.
Seems a lot of people get addicted to the drama, continuous stimulation, emotional rollercoasters, cheap thrills and quick validation. Social media made it a lot worse. It gets to the point people can't live anymore without the drama and go in withdrawal to seek out new thrills. It's the opposite of a stable relationship.
I get what you mean, stress for the cortisol, anxiety for the adrenaline type deal. And, yeah, I do agree that such a temperament/character/neurochemical inclination seeks these situations for different reasons.
But I've also seen plenty of cases where it was just based on a belief, they were convinced that a relationship reached a breaking point once the chemical ecstasy started to die down. The people holding it were obviously suffering because of it (though not fully aware of this causation) and genuinely wanted to find a fix. Unfortunately, they went from disappointment to disappointment when the inevitable kept happening.
It's also why I only have questions, there are layers upon layers of nuance with subjects like this...
Again, it is well within your prerogative to not accept such behaviour! I honestly view it as yet another traumatic maladaptation and treat it as such - even though it's causally not their fault that they believe/behave thusly, it is their responsibility to keep it in check.
But I'll be straight with you, I think you may be underestimating yourself and overestimating the average person. Critical Thinking really isn't innate, it's a skill. A skill which a lot (I'd even go as far as to say a large majority) of people thoroughly lack, because it is a skill which needs training from very early on, as it builds upon itself. I don't think there's a general educational schema on Earth at the moment which in any way truly encourages Critical Thinking, if there ever has been one. From what I've seen, it tends to come into play way later and in very specific fields of study, which means there's a lot of catching up to do by that point, so the horizon it affects tends to remain narrow.
Not to mention the utterly insidious and imperceptible nature of ideological corruption. It's incredibly hard to see the brainwashing if one's been going through it since before one started forming coherent throughts. It permeates even the subconscious.
I'm not trying to play the perfect being over here, I've seen myself being as dumb as a rock at times and I know that I have a llllot of learning left in front of me. But realistically speaking, just because we're dumb doesn't mean others aren't even dumber...
Would bet any amount of money that the kinda idiot who posts a greentext like this on 4chan thinks that they've no responsibility to make their partner feel loved after a so-called "honeymoon phase."
People can get complacent in their relationships and take the people they have around them for granted. I don't stay with people who treat me like that, no matter how long I've been with them, and I support and respect anyone who feels the same.
We all tend to equilibrium. Having someone vs being single is generally an improvement to most people, but it will feel like an average day eventually.
Part of building a relationship is getting to know one another more deeply. And maybe you get to a point in a relationship where you don't actually like the person you're with anymore.
If you're only seeing someone a couple hours a day for a couple days a week, and the person is always trying to impress you, then the impression you get isn't going to be the same as you get living with that person for months at a time.
If you started dating in high school as immature teenagers and then you develop at different speeds, maybe the person you're with doesn't seem as dashing or sophisticated as they did a few years ago. Maybe the person starts drinking or works long hours or is constantly stressed out, and you don't want to be around that anymore.
Or maybe you date someone for a few months and then you're just... done. You did that thing, you're bored, you want a new thing. Going steady isn't the same as getting married. When you're young, lots of people look incredibly hot and your hormones will regularly outrun your common sense.
Breaking up sucks. But the biggest mistake you can make as a young person is thinking the puppy love you feel on the first date is going to last forever. If you don't want this kind of miserable heartbreak, the best advice is to not be so committed early on. Date lots of people. Don't fixate on a single person just because you get some attention in response. Break up early and break up often. Worry about settling down when you're older.
i think it’s something to do with support groups and stuff… some people just want that sense of community so bad they’ll act like they were abused to get it.
happened to me once.., was in a relationship for years, was good, broke up, stayed good friends for years… moved away… called her one day and suddenly i was abusive and the relationship was fucked up.
(i swear to god i wasn’t… barely had any arguments at all, and they were never mean or anything… her story of lying to me about me even changed over time… i think she gaslit herself)