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Extreme heat killed over 1300 Hajj pilgrims in 2024

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Extreme heat killed over 1300 Hajj pilgrims in 2024 | Climate & Capitalism

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Saudi authorities have installed air-conditioned shelters and other cooling methods. But these are only available to pilgrims with official permits. Most of those who died did not have permits, meaning they could not access cool relief.
This is absolutely devastating, there's absolutely no doubt. When reading the article, though, I didn't understand why this is an article in this particular community. Maybe Saudi Arabia should provide more cooling methods, or not let too many people in?
Although climate change is, of course, caused by Western-style capitalism, it is by far not the only reason. China, a socialist country, is the world's largest coal producer and importer, and coal likely remains the bedrock of China's energy system for at least another decade.
I feel this is a well-researched article, but maybe the wrong community?
- Nah, this is the right community for this article. climateandcapitalism is an ecosocialist publication and mitigating climate disaster is a key policy goal for most socialists, so it is important for us to observe the consequences of climate change and think about effective solutions for various communities.
  
  Why has this been deleted then if I may ask?
  
  Let me say that this is on you and Beehaw, I just think it is an article about the Haji. The solution here is to just provide enough cooling methods I would say. I feel putting this in a wider 'capitalist and climate' frame is a bit overdone.
  Climate change is our all issue, and it's caused by self-defined capitalist and socialist countries alike. Similar things happen in Brazil's Amazon region, in Asia, almost across China's BRI, and across the globe. It's not unique to socialism.
  But, again, it's on you and I don't want to make that a big issue. Sometimes it's better to agree to disagree :-)
- This does seem like more of a climate change related article. That said, access to cooling shelters could also be construed as an issue of social safety nets.
  I do kind of feel like the moderation in this particular community or subcommunity or whatever we're calling it is a little bit subject to unilateral judgement calls that reflect personal preference more than particularly justifiable positions. Oh well. Can't win them all.

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