Leaders of 'Uncommitted' and 'Abandon Harris' movements reflect on Trump's victory and early moves

Misner said it was a difficult decision to vote for Trump. He said the point of the Abandon Harris campaign was to punish the Democrats for supporting Israel during its war in Gaza, which the campaigners view as a genocide, and he hopes the Trump campaign will be more willing to negotiate with group leaders.

Vindication feels awful here, honestly.

“I think the biggest problem is that your messaging to Arab Americans can’t just be ‘Trump’s a fascist, Trump is Hitler. Big, scary orange man, vote for me.’ Part of being a part of the American political system is being able to separate yourself from your opponent and lay out a better vision. And she did not do that,” Abdelrahman said.

1. Negative messaging works, as much as people like to pretend it doesn't.

2. If you saw a literal fascist openly declaring fascist things, and your response to the milquetoast opposition is "Well, you're not seperated enough, stylistically", you're not much more than a fascist enabler.

3. In what fucking way is "Not fascism" not a better vision than "Literal fucking fascism"?

“She could have at least called for a ceasefire,” Khan said. (Harris repeatedly called for a ceasefire during her campaign, including during her Democratic convention speech.)

Ah, it's just like being on Lemmy!

“Even in politics, humanity should be the first and the foremost thing to to be respected, to be valued, right? And [the] Democratic Party clearly, clearly, for an entire year showed us they do not care about human life,” Khan said. “They do not care about their constituents, how they feel about the massacre.”

Ah, yes, humanity is the first and foremost thing to be respected, which is why LGBT Americans have been served to fascists on a silver platter as a protest vote. Peak humanity.

This is amazing. Kamala didn't do enough so we are going with the guy who has literally said he will fuck up everything we stand for.

Look I get it, the Dems didn't do enough to win over their base and instead went to the center.

But these Dearborn folks in the article get what they deserve and should really shut the fuck up. They voted for a man who said he would extend his Muslim country travel ban to gaza and still thought somehow he was on their side.

You are a complete a total dumbass if you thought he was on your side. He has years and years of lying out of his ass and you believed him and it's the Democrats fault? No I reject that. He literally stated in 2023 that he would extend his travel ban to Gaza. I feel like I need to take crazy pills or something, these people are insufferable.

Doesn't matter - dems lost because people are constantly hearing the right's narrative over and over and over again, reinforcing the idea that it's reality.

It reminds me of how the majority of Americans thought the ACA was actually called Obamacare by Obama because he must be so vain, but now it's on a massive scale.

We live in a world where people get to choose what is real and what is fake, and that choice is largely based on which idea is more entertaining, more emotionally satisfying to them. The right is capitalizing on this and the left is being left devastated.

The popular quote used to be 'reality has a well-known liberal bias'. Well, now reality is whatever makes me feel angriest or scaredest and that has a well known conservative bias.

What do they have to worry about? Their guy won!

Joe Biden, personally and purposefully, aided and participated in an ongoing genocide, and Harris promised to not deviate from Bidens foreign policy.

You don't get the votes of the people you're genocide because maybe the other guy might also effect white people.

Maybe the Democrats shouldn't have pretended Biden was still functioning for 3+ years instead of waiting until he died on the debate stage. Kamala running a dogshit 3 month campaign where she ran to the right of Biden didn't help.

Materially maybe they shouldn't have kicked 14+ million people off Medicaid by 'ending' COVID. That's 3x their margin of loss and things like losing health coverage piss people off.

She lost by more than the margin of every third party vote combined.

I kept saying since last year Biden was throwing away his campaign but noooooooo, its the voters who are wrong.

You of all people posting this without comment. The only thing funnier (and sadder) is "cautious optimism about Trump".

Now please remember both sides bad and its akshually a uniparty, so all voters are innocent uwu

What about the braindead fascists who nominated loser kamalacaust?

What do they think? Have they changed their minds? Will they do it yet again in 2028?

Why not ask the people who are actually responsible for this pathetic showing?

What do you mean trump won?! We spent all our time fighting against Harris?! How did she lose?!

Hard to muster a lot of sympathy for this mindset. SMH.