Distro Focuses

why or how is fedora security?

When you run OpenSUSE, you can feel it was made by Germans.
The installer is a beautiful example of German engineering.
The package manager is a perfect example of German over-engineering.
If you run it with KDE, you have 2 redundant GUI admin tools for every config in the system, and 4 for setting up printers.

Sees "Germany"

Die Kommentarspalte dieser Pfostierung befindet sich ab sofort im Besitz der Bundesrepublik Deutschland meine Kameraden!

Nixos: everything everywhere all at once

ITT - "I DISAGREE WITH THE FACTUAL ACCURACY OF THE SETUP AND/OR PUNCHLINE OF YOUR JOKE."

I'll never stop hating that debian is labeled stable. I'm fully aware that they are using the definition of stable that simply means not updating constantly but the problem is that people conflate that with stability as in unbreaking. Except it's the exact opposite in my experience, I've had apt absolutely obliterate debian systems way too often. Vs pacman on arxh seems to be exceptionally good at avoiding that. Sure the updated package itself could potentially have a bug or cause a problem but I can't think of any instance where the actual process of updating itself is what eviscerated the system like with apt and dpkg.

And even in the event of an update going catastrophically wrong to the point that the system is inoperable I can simply chroot in use a statically built binary pacman and in a oneliner command reinstall ALL native packages in one go which I've never had not fix a borked system from interrupted update or needing a rollback

I think I've put fedora on at least 4 personal systems and it has never caused an issue. It's so smooth it's boring in the best way. Switched to it for daily computing about 4 years ago. I use a minipc as a media server with Arch and turning it on it's exciting. Just this fucking morning the default configuration decided that my main audio device was a microphone. Lovely. So flexible.

I mean, I'm on Debian and I'm on the same install instance I've had for almost four years now. I'm constantly reading about how some of you people keep hosing your other distros with a normal update...

The four fundamental Ys

Fedora 41 is now the 'wait 45 seconds every boot because you don't have a tpm chip' version.

Flexibility translates to unpredictable.

Somehow, I feel called out.

Fedora is security? I mean, don't get me wrong, I love it, it's my daily driver after trying just about every distro under the sun, but I would've figured something like Qubes would stand head and shoulders above it.

From my experience of Fedora: would you like to update today? Debian: You're good bro, no updates today.

I would hope the Fedora isn't the only one that cares about security

Don't forget SUSE's focus on SAP... Which is also Germany I guess

Danke für dies handbuch

More accurate i would describe Fedora is:
Adopting Modern features first(Wayland,pipewire,etc Like there is no x mode in most stable Wayland desktops) and only having free and open source Repos(Rpmfusion can be added but its not official and excludes the Kernel drivers).

I think, a more serious attempt to summarize openSUSE would probably be: Functionality

Debian, Arch, Fedora and such are all weirdly similar in that they focus so much on minimalism. For example, Debian uses dash as the default shell, which breaks TTYs, but possibly squeezes out a tiny bit of performance, so I guess, that's worth it...?

Mint: easy

I mean, sure Arch is flexible. All good footguns can mutilate me in a bunch of different ways.

Ha. You want STABLE, use NixOS.

If you're cannot parse the configuration file, you don't update. It is perfectly, 100% stable, about 60% of the time (when I change my config file without an error).

for security, use Tails, Qubes, Whonix, or if you want gaming + security, then Bazzite or Garuda

I would have put OpenBSD in "focus on security". Or hell The only prebuild thing their is pain, pain and suffering

I, uh, use Kubuntu LTS (--minimal-install, so no snap).

Are *buntu flavors risky for my workstation? Should I be considering Fedora?

Sloppy Seconds - Germany

shitstemd, glibc, bloated kernel, sudo and proprietary blobs are not secure