The culprit of all wars

Yes, every non-capitalist country throughout history has been a beacon of peace lmao

Humans are human. Capitalism is absolutely a driver of some conflict, but conflict is driven not only by economic interests, but also political, ethnic, religious, and other interests.

Capitalism is the primary driver of wars, it determines the basic structure of what is and is not permissible, generates nation-states (these did not always exist, actually), and then creates the conditions by which the national bourgeoisie nation-states push for war in order to become international bourgeoisie (imperialists).

For example, the US keeps the middle east in a regular state of war to prevent them from having independent policies regarding oil. It is concerned about oil because of the petrodollar. It is concerned about the petrodollar because it is th3 primary financial war instrument by which it jeeps other countries sending superprofits its way and otherwise screwing with countries using interest rates. And it does those things because the US is the global seat of capital, it is where the big finance companies are based.

How many wars have there been in the middle east since 2000? How has the US been involved? Do they just do it for the thrill of domination?
- Look dude, I'm not here to argue about the US's absolutely fucked foreign policy, and in absolutely no fucking way am I saying any one conflict is not driven in whole or in part by capitalism.
  
  But "Capitalism is the primary driver of wars" is a fundamentally false statement. Just because it's a driver of some or even most modern conflicts does not make it "the primary driver of wars." War is a well documented and studied social phenomenon that predates capitalism by thousands of years, maybe millions. Fucking chimpanzee tribes war with each other. There are thousands upon thousands of wars throughout human history that prove your statement wrong.
Your mind must have added the words "ever" somewhere in the meme. Meme is in present tense, so accurate.

True in many cases, but there were wars before there was capitalism.

And in those times the causes were things like feudalism.
- The problem is and always was the power structure and the greed of those at the top of it. It had many different names and forms during history.

Capitalism is a source of so many problems, yet somehow you singed and missed.

This is as reductive as when people say religion is what causes all wars. Humans cause war. Race, religion, nationality, money, power,etc. All of them,and more, have been used as pretexts for war.

everybody wants to rule the world in some way or another even if it means killing everyone else smh

I can't figure out exactly why Russia invaded Ukraine, but I don't think it's capitalism. The oligarchs certainly didn't appreciate it very much now. My guess is it was for some misguided desire for legacy?

They've openly stated that it's to demillitarize Ukraine as a consequence of NATO encirclement around Russia. Russia was rejected from NATO membership 2 decades ago on account of it turning ultranationalist and regaining the industry sold to the West after the dissolution of the Soviet State, so NATO has been pressing around Russia to force them to capitulate and open up again.

Do you believe this is wrong, and if so, why do you think so many Russians are going along with it?
- Why do you think? Because if you go against it you go to jail.
- Fascist dictatorships openly make false statements all the time, often to hide their real intentions. Russians go along with it because of some combination of fear, nationalism, nostalgia, and actually being in favor of fascism.
- Because Putin is saying that they just kill Nazis. Which os obviously wrong. And russiuans either believe it or understand its fake and move to other countries and hate Putin.
  
  Alone in my city are 200 Russians in a Telegram Community going to University. I visited some events like a large Birthday Party and another event. Noone is for Putin and many did flee from Russia 2 Years ago when the war started.
- Hi tankie
- Watch what governments do, not what they say. If they were concerned about NATO, (especially their air forces) they wouldn't be throwing away their stockpile of anti-air missiles to hit ground targets.

cool, so taiwan, tibet and mongolia don't have to worry at all

Nor Ukraine
- Russia is a capitalist country?

It's easy to forget capitalism (and imperialism) aren't the natural state of things and there were wars before it. Of course, that's doesn't mean it doesn't perpetuate and indeed requires wars and exploitation to continue existing.

Oh man I was already beaten by a lemmy.world user saying something stupid

What about wars started by communist nations?

It's capitalism's fault they became communist
- ..is that seriously a justification for you?
There are none. They all capitalist under the hood.

Why the downvotes?

Well IMO it is a bit simplistic to just toss it to capitalism.

I do agree that capitalists profit from wars and historically have started wars for profit, but the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza are a bit more complicated.
- The Gaza colonialist takeover is as straighforward as you can get.
It's ignoring the crusades

Anybody reading Aristophanes in these times of demagogues and world wars? I just finished Birds and Peace. Studies of democracy, Greek hegemony, and hellenization feel like a refresher on familiar problems and their perspectives. I think he was writing about 250 years after Homer, and today we're writing about 250 years after the US framers.