Defiant Joe Rogan insists he’s not a propaganda asset, just actually this stupid
Defiant Joe Rogan insists he’s not a propaganda asset, just actually this stupid
AUSTIN, TX - Following comments on Russia's invasion of Ukraine, where multi-millionaire podcaster Joe Rogan blamed Ukrainian defence for "causing World War III", the podcast phenom clarified that he was not echoing Kremlin propaganda, but is in fact truly this fucking braindead.
I'm going to give him the benefit of doubt. It could indeed be true.
Yes, I know it's the Onion, but they've been spitting truth lately so I'm going with it.
Trouble is, "useful idiot" is a type of asset.
Yeah, Russia literally can't out and claimed Trump is their useful idiot. No ambiguity, just he's a Russian asset.
I see it a bit different; he doesn't realize it, but this is nothing more or less than a full admission to being said asset. I mean, he's confirmed he's too stupid to realize that he is, so logically he's the perfect asset.
he’s confirmed he’s too stupid to realize that he is
He's running the same con as Bush Jr. was: He knows damn well what he's doing, he's playing like he doesn't know so he can deny it. His 'character' is this folksy kinda dumb guy who just 'wants to know the truth.' Then he can put fuckin' Jordan Peterson on and go "hmm yes, I agree with you in every single thing you've said except this one small one, now see, I'm totally not biased."
Young, 16-25 year old boys/men eat this up and he makes bank because they want the easy answers that right-wing con artists pitch to be real. They want it to be reality so they overlook the pretty obvious signs that Rogan is fleecing them.
This is The Beaverton, a far superior and more well respected publication than that rag down south
I hate to link to that place, but I couldn't be bothered to go through a million joe rogan podcasts to find this clip of a guest of joe rogan calling it on how this shit was going to go down.
‘Deep dark wells of perspective’, what an apt way to put it. Thanks for posting.
Is this what the show usually is? Even though that guy is making a good point it takes him 5 minutes of "no bro.. bro.. " how is this so popular
It's relatable to "low IQ individuals," as their god emperor would say.
¿Por que no los dos?
Yeah it's definitely both
Damn, almost bit this onion too.
For just an instant, I really hoped this was a moment clarity for Joe. That he would just retire and that the next time I'd see him would be as a guest star on the News Radio reboot.
News Radio reboot
Dang how did i miss this coming down the pipe.
RIP Phil Hartman.
Fuck Andy dick
Wasn't this Alex Joe's legal defense?
I've never followed Joe Rogan, so I'm a bit ignorant here. Didn't he used to be really popular? What changed, did he become right wing or get really into conspiracies or something?
No integrity.
Let any nut job on his show spew their easily falsifiable claims/conspiracies and then gave those nut jobs legitimacy by just sitting there and nodding at them as if agreeing with them.
He sold out for money/views. Simple as that.
He's not very intelligent overall and he doesn't care who his guests are and what harm the words of those guests do.
At around the beginning of the pandemic he started to switch. At the start of the pandemic - March 2020, he had a virologist on that convinced me covid-19 wasn't just another SARS or MERS that was going to fall flat.
Rogan began his spiral into deplorability after that. Inconvenience outweighed reality for him.
Prior to then, I'd say he had a great mix of all guests from politics to science, hunting and fighting, comedy and entertainment... He was a good interviewer then because he'd ask good questions, shut up, and let them talk. Moreover, he'd ask questions common people might ask a preeminent physicist or politician, getting from them answers accessible to most people.
I stopped listening to his shit back then. Now, he's a big toe. He has a self serving agenda. He's a MAGA Republican asset, which makes him a Russian one by proxy if not directly.
He promoted voting for trump, he's an actual right winger.
Rogan declared his support for Trump in the 2024 presidential election against Vice President Kamala Harris the night before polls opened. He credited Tesla CEO Elon Musk with his decision to endorse Trump.
He was a good interviewer then because he’d ask good questions, shut up, and let them talk.
And there was no time pressure on his podcast. The episodes took as long as they took, so no need for people who aren't good at sound bites to figure out how to explain something complicated in a fast and simple way.
But, even back pre-COVID, pre-Spotify, he was a dangerous idiot. Like, he'd have Alex Jones on, and the guy would spew vast quantities of dangerous misinformation, and Rogan would fact check him on one little thing and that moment would go viral. Meanwhile, Alex Jones gets platformed and most of his BS goes unchallenged.
He had maybe 3-4 good years when his podcast changed from having the same MMA fighters / comedians on again and again every year, to having new people every week, to when it went full-on right wing. In 2012/13 it was still an MMA / comedy podcast featuring mostly the same people every week. Then he had Neil Degrasse Tyson, Dana White, Dan Carlin, David Lee Roth, Douglas Rushkoff. In 2017 he had Alex Jones for the first time. But, by then he was already platforming woowoo people pushing "supplements", and right-wing assholes like Stephen Crowder and Gavin McInnes.
He's always been popular, his show is the biggest around. But he's a dumbass who routinely platforms assholes like Jordan Peterson and does zero due diligence.
He has in the past had some good conversations with interesting individuals, but he is probably the most credulous person on the face of the earth since Joseph bought the line about the virgin birth.
He doesn't just give no pushback, he believes whatever he is told as received wisdom. He's the kind of guy that Ancient Aliens was targeted at. Unfortunately that has got him into the secret truths/fascist death spiral.
Conversation implies two people participating equally, I don't think he ever had good conversations. He had some interesting guests on, but he was in no way an equal or even significant contributor to said appearances.
Also I questioned the believe everything he's told thing. I've seen clips of people explaining why he's wrong on things and his Meathead not been able to grasp it and sticking with it. Even clips of his producer explaining why one of the things he says is completely wrong and made up, and he still believes it. My favorite clip of him is him screaming at a scientist who spinner entire career studying chimpanzees I think it was. He didn't believe what she said. So I'm not so sure about the believes whatever he is told thing.
He still is incredibly popular, that's why many people think his hosting Trump on his podcast helped swing the election.
He's always been libertarian right wing. But, since he became generationally rich, he's now full on Republican.
The thing that made him popular was "he's open to all ideas". The issue with that stance is you end up leaning one way over another when the ideas come from people with absolute certainty vs ones that are self scrutinized. So, he ends up being a mouthpiece for the right as a result. He genuinely might be surprised to be accused of being a propagandist. His folly is that he is an idiot.
His comedy has always been edgy, and I think many comedians that are in this niche tend to be opposed to anything that tells them where the line is. When you go against "woke" you naturally gravitate towards being right-wing.
Alongside this, many of his friends are the same, particularly his boss Dana White. Surround yourself with assholes and eventually you become one, I guess.
Even pre-COVID, he was really into conspiracies, and his thoughts on TRT against most medical advice was pretty weird. He got away with it because he's a fifty-something dude that runs a podcast. It's fine when he's broing out, but a danger when he's spouting conspiracies that harm the average person.
Didn't the guy host the incoming president of usa and his allies? Looks indeed like a propaganda asset to me but not russia propaganda.
I have you tagged as "Russian troll" and every comment I see of yours supports the Russian narrative or undermine the Russian interference narrative.
Or maybe you're not a propaganda asset, just actually this stupid!
How i'm stupid? If you handpick USA politicians and people with ties to the USA government for your program interviews you sound like an USA propaganda asset to me.
How pointing this out label me as a russian troll? You honestly sound a much bigger bad actor for labeling as troll people pointing out the obvious.
Could be worse
Could be Lex Friedman
The gloves are off at the "satirical" news sites.
Many years ago, I actually enjoyed listening to his podcast but it's hardly reminiscent of the goofy stoner podcast it used to be. Back when artists like Alex Gray would come on and talk about their inspirations or whatever drugs they were on when they created a masterpiece. Or when Maynard James Keenan would get on and talk about TOOL and wine making. Or about how many chimps you could fight before getting your limbs torn off your body. It was stupid, had variety, was largely innocent and Joe wasn't even close to wielding the influence he has now. About 6 years ago it stared shift gears and I just couldnt be bothered to catch-up on any episodes. It was just getting so dull, more mainstream and drawn out. But then came 2020 and covid 19, that was it. It was no longer a show for stoners on long drives or just coming home from work and wanting to hear some mindless brain candy. Shit was getting dangerous with his guests and he gave them a larger platform than even network TV stations could everhope for. At the exact same time, he basically sold his soul to Spotify for $500M. So he had a much wider audience, more money than anyone could ever need in 100 lifetimes and the show was now officially about listeners and ratings thanks to Spotify. I'm now too embarrassed to even mention I was an early fan IRL anymore. I don't understand why people still listen to or engage with him, his show and all the quacks he brings on. There was a reason he rose to popularity but that reason has long since died. All we get is more bullshit and misinformation posed as truth. Nobody took it seriously enough to even care about the dumb shit people said on his show then bc it was comedy centric. Now it political and a major artery by which deliberate misinformation is distributed to the masses.
There was a guy on reddit back in the day who had a joe Rogan hate sub. Roe Jogan I think?
It was adjacent enough to the opieandanthony sub to be mentioned on occasion.
RIP KING they banned him for his many mental illness related brigadings but he was right
Defiantly stupid is the very special kind of stupid.
Didn't he actually say this before? The stupid part, I mean.
Podcasts are literally destroying the fabric of our society.
Kill the internet. We simply aren't responsible enough for it.
We're letting too many stupids with microphones warp our brains.
That's a weird take, that podcasts are the issue and not monopolies, big tech, lack of privacy regulation, etc.
Podcasts are one of the few interoperable, democratic things left out there. Anybody can put one up, they use an open technology, RSS, for distribution, they're not monetized by default, etc.
The real issue is that the Internet has an advertising duopoly made from two companies that harvest vast amounts of personal data. They promote controversial stuff like Joe Rogan because it keeps people engaged (read "angry") and engaged people spend more time on their various sites which means more ad dollars flow in.
Spotify, which has a cozy relationship with the music industry cartel, signed Rogan to an enormous deal. So, again, not really podcasting that's the issue here, it's the music/entertainment cartel using him as a means of driving engagement with their platform.
This article is out of a parody publication before anyone takes every word too seriously.
it’s entirely possible
Something something "when somebody tells you who they are: believe them"
I call him Joe Rogaine for a reason
Joe Rogan was actually a big Bernie Sanders supporter. It was only after Sanders betrayed the working class by first endorsing Hilary and then Biden that he and a lot of other people on the left turned to Trump. Sanders endorsing Hilary is what won Trump the election. If you actually listen to some of his podcasts he is very left wing economically, constantly talking about corporations screwing working class people and the world for the sake of profit. Contrary to poplar narratives Trump supporters are not actually all racist morons, they are just pissed at the system. It's funny how things have turned into their opposite. In the 00s the Republicans were the pro-war and pro-censorship party. Now it's the Democrats. As for the war in Ukraine, that's not Joe Rogan's own opinion, it's actually the thesis of one of the smartest scholars in geopolitics, John Mearsheimer.
Bernie did not "betray" anyone, fuck off with that horseshit.
Well, that's not how most of his supporters felt. A huge portion of Sander's supporters went to vote for Trump after he endorsed Hilary.
This is a whole lot of nonesense. Bernie wasn't ever the nominee. how does him endorsing the Democratic nominee push people on the left to vote for Trump when they support Bernie? By that logic if Bernie would have endorsed Trump then those voters would have voted for Hillary.
And if you've been paying attention and vote for an openly racist and sexist moron you are yourself a racist and sexist moron. There's not a way around that. I can't say I respect women and minorities and then turn around and vote for a guy that's going to make womens' and minorities lives' so much worse. Best case I could make is that I wasn't at all paying attention and I didn't really know what I was voting for. Which isn't exactly a good look either.
And just because dems are moving further right insofar as supporting the war in Ukraine and the Genocide in Palestine that doesn't mean that Republicans have somehow flipped to being the progressive, anti-war, anti-cencorship party. Dems have moved further right sure, but Republicans have driven right off the end of the right side of the scale.
Bernie wasn’t ever the nominee. how does him endorsing the Democratic nominee push people on the left to vote for Trump when they support Bernie?
He wasn't the nominee because the DNC screwed him over in 2016 in favor of Hilary. At that point Sanders had a choice, he could either break with the right wing democratic party or support the official democratic nominee. This was a historic opportunity to break apart the two-party system of the US and Sanders squandered it. The decision to endorse Hilary was seen by a large part of his support base as betrayal. Contradictory as it may seem both Sanders and Trump had tapped in the same mood of discontent among the masses. They were both seen as anti-establishment candidates and there was a big overlap among the people who supported them. But unlike Trump Sanders embraced the failed strategy of "lesser-evilism" and that directly led to Trump's victory. If Sanders had stood firm history may have been different.
As for the Republicans going left wing. Neither of the two US parties is left wing but it's a fact that the Republicans have taken the role from the Democrats of pretending to support the working class. They even use the phrase "working class" now, even on Fox News. That was unheard of only 10 years ago. When is the last time you heard a Democrat refer to the working class? It's all "middle class" for them. The Democrats are the party of Hollywood now, not the workers. So yea, the republicans are using left-wing rhetoric now, the dems are moving more and more to the right. Identity politics is not "left wing". It's just what passes for left wing in the US liberal circles, and people are tired of it.