Anti-NATO protest in Montreal erupts in fires, smashed windows
Anti-NATO protest in Montreal erupts in fires, smashed windows
Police say they've arrested 3 people after an anti-NATO protest that included two car fires and left some businesses with smashed windows.
Anti-NATO protesters gathered again in Montreal on Saturday to demand Canada withdraw from the alliance, a day after a demonstration organized by different groups resulted in arrests, burned cars and shattered windows.
the purpose of the protest was to demonstrate against what he called NATO’s “complicity with Israel’s military while it’s conducting its genocide in Gaza, … war crimes in Lebanon, Syria” and that “it’s enforcing illegal occupation of Palestinian territories.”
However, Allard rejected accusations of antisemitism. He said the protests were against the actions of the state of Israel and not Jewish people, adding that earlier this week the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
WTF does NATO have anything to do with Israel or Palestine?!
WTF would leaving NATO have any effect on Israel or Palestine?!
WTF are these people even on about?
NATO’s “complicity with Israel’s military while it’s conducting its genocide in Gaza
NATO isn't helping Israel... (while some NATO members might be, that's not NATO)
It's not NATO's job to get involved with with Israel or Palestine...
The idea is to dethrone the US from global power because people are sick of us having our boot on their necks.
But the alternative is China wearing the boot and they've proven they would kill every non Han in the world
Idk why you're being downvoted, you gave a pretty fair description of the situation. Even the Han bit, China doesn't have any anti-discrimination laws and they're more than 90% Han Chinese.
But the alternative is China wearing the boot and they’ve proven they would kill every non Han in the world
While I hope we can get our shit together in Europe to form a strong alliance that does not depend on the totalitarian US come next year, I'd say that 1) your statement is ragebait bullshit and 2) killing the non-whatever-ethnicity seems very similar to the Gravy Seals policy of the orange fat fuck and his MAGA dipshits.
In the last UK election, an old-school tankie named George Galloway ran a party. One of his candidates, a former professional cricketer IIRC, called for the UK to pull out of NATO to better control immigration. To his credit, he withdrew his candidacy and dropped out of politics a week later once it became apparent how far out of his depth he was.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_218165.htm
https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-backs-israel-and-warns-iran-to-stay-away-gaza-hamas-netanyah/
There is a very good reason the Irish care about Neutrality. The Montrealites are not so different.
Edit: Thank you Chairman Meow for telling me about this: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-blocks-nato-israel-cooperation-over-gaza-war-sources-say-2024-08-01/
Newsflash: people are generally fucking dumb and have ever only the vaguest idea of what they are talking about.
Those young people are being manipulated by Russia! We need NATO.
Europe need it not Canada and it should be 100% run by Europe
Sure, Ivan.
Tankie
Because Russia has zero ambitions to conquer the arctics?
Alliance members get to decide who's in their alliance. Nobody's preventing you from expressing your opinion, but it's pointless.
Yeah, I'm sure Canada not being allied with a bunch of other naval powers would be a lot better for the residents of Монреаль in the long run.
It is weird that there are these protest groups wearing particular scarves that always seem to be acting in the interest of Russia.
Honest question: has the USSR or Russia ever attempted to invade Canada? I only know that Canada had sent military around 1917 to fight against communism (well, what is called this way) but I don't know much more on the topic.
Honest question: has the USA or NATO ever attempted to invade the USSR or Russia?
Russia does not recognize our borders in the Arctic. They have rival claims to the Arctic Ocean
No, Ruzzia in any of its forms has not tried to invade us, to the best of my knowledge
Russia sponsored protest gets reported by local news, after the break.
They could have protested against the involvement of Canada in the war (is there any?), against Israel, in favor of a Palestine state…
Tankies be tankin’
Expert level challenge: hit a bong every time someone blames the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on some party who isn't even fucking involved...
God forbid we ever acknowledge the basic truth that the two most culpable parties responsible for the ~80 years of war are, unsurprisingly to many, Israel and Palestine for empowering the worst possible political leaders on both sides. Netanyahu and Hams got the violence and anger that they always wanted and have been working towards for most of our lives, and somehow that's NATO's fault in the peabrain's shallow mind.
NATO is the main thing keeping the western world and democratic ideology safe from countries like Russia, Iran and China. Is this another thing we're gonna throw under the bus for no reason other than some vague, nonsensical whining about Gaza?
Nah. The US has blood all over it's hands Re Gaza. Agreed that blaming NATO is nonsense
Disappointed that this happened at all, but the fact that it was only 80 people is a plus. Seems like it's just a small group of terminally online agitators.
Vlad's tentacles slithering into Canada.
NATO isn’t the problem, support to Israel is.
An how many of them actually have the first clue why they're asking for that?
Send them to fight in Ukraine. Let them pick a side too.
When they ask why, tell them this is what would happen if there was no NATO. They would be drafted into the war. Just like in WW2.
Oh, I think we all know which side they would fight if given the choice. They would twerk for 'Daddy Vladi'.
The problem would sort itself out pretty quickly then. Tankies are what you would refer to as полезные дураки, or useful idiots. If Putin doesn’t care about sending full blooded Russians to die in meat grinder assaults against fortified positions, then he sure as hell wouldn’t give a shit about a bunch of western groupies who want to cosplay the USSR. Most of the idiots on Lemmy.ml and Hexbear wouldn’t last more than a week, I would wager.
We need more of this energy
No we don't
You can be against Putin AND against NATO.
NATO is still a bad organization.
How so?
It's a military and imperialist organization lol. I'll give you a detailled reply but will also return the question: what good had NATO done exaclty?
From my Canadian perspective, NATO pressures Canada to increase military spending to 2% of GDP. Meanwhile we are in the middle of the biggest housing crisis of the past 50 years, but our (most probably) next prime minister will inject billions in the army.
NATO has supported Israel intervention on multiple occasion. Although they have timidly requested a ceasefire, they continue the official discourse on “the right to defend oneself”.
NATO has embarked on numerous interventions over the past 30 years, notably the "war against terrorism” and wars in Iraq, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria... All with great results /s
NATO isn't doing shit for Ukraine.
Your turn!
I get why in this momement where Ukraine appears to be dependent on NATO support, and where it seems like NATO is required to counterbalence Russia, why people would support the existence of it. But, it is absolutely a tool of US global hegemonic power. The US has committed some incredibly horrific acts to secure its position as sole global super power and NATO as a tool to develop and maintain that power has been used to that end, and will continue to be used in that way. We should not confuse tools of imperial power projection to be a good thing.
NATO needs to be abolished. They are nothing but the European arm of US imperialism
Even if you are anti-NATO, you must appreciate that NATO stops Turkey from going to war with Cyprus and Greece. Just one example.
I'd prefer people who know nothing about quantum mechanics argue whether or not there should be multiple dimensions.