Gaming @beehaw.org Lime Buzz @beehaw.org 1mo ago

Fallout London is a better game than Fallout 4

Yes, I said it and mean it.

It has 'NPCs' that feel way more alive than anything bethesda ever put out and even an anarchist faction that so far acts like actual anarchists do/would in real life not the common idea of anarchists in most media.

Apart from the ocassional crashes (even with the patch), this is a great game/mod and I highly recommend trying it out if you have Fallout 4.

Edit: You can get it here

Instructions on how to install on Steam are here

Instructions on how to install on linux are here (though you can skip installing Buffout as the latest patch has it already). I do recommend installing it through Heroic if you have a gog account though, makes it a lot easier than Lutris ime.

Make sure you turn off weapon debris, you can do this by finding Fallout4Prefs.ini for both Fallout 4 and Fallout London (just in case) and setting the following options thusly:

[NVFlex] bNVFlexEnable=0 iQuality=0 bNVFlexInstanceDebris=0 bNVFlexDrawDebris=0

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The bar is pretty low, we're talking Bethesda.

That being said, I have yet to hear anything negative about F: London.
- I tried to play London and it crashed constantly. Now, that's not all that different an experience from playing any Bethesda game, but it did kind of kill any interest I had in the mod.
  
  I have to try again on my system with AMD 6750 video card, on my other one with Nvidia 3070 it keeps crashing every five minutes and I was already a couple of hours in and liking it.
  
  Which version? The latest version includes Buffout 4 which helps some. However, yeah it crashes a lot for me, but thankfully I save a lot and have the patience to just reload. I understand not everyone does though.
- The only negative thing really is the crashing. It still happens a lot for me even with the patch.
  
  the discord for the mod is really helpful, and has a pretty smart bot to decipher crashlogs. Definitely solved some issues I had. Recommended, unless discord is a nono, which is fair.
  
  I do some "community service" over there and help out others where I can. And seems like most crashes are either some lingering mods from old-fallout4 install, creation club mods (any cc*.* files in fallout/data -dir, or old config files in mydocs/mygames/fallout4) or "bug fix mods" intended for 1.00/1.01 folon versions, and lastly: weapon debris -option enabled - that causes crashes outright with nvidia cards.
  
  edit: also "long loading times fix" -mod is a total nono, there's better and less files corrupting options out there (highfpsphysics)
I have never played fallout london and i 100% agree
If DLCs can be Game of the Year, then Mods should be too.
- You know what, I agree. And I would love to see the look on Todd Howard's face if Fallout: London wins GotY. It should be eligible for that reason alone.
  
  I think he would be pretty happy, since it would mean more sales of Fallout 4 when all the new people show up to play London. Like how Bohemia Interactive leaned into DayZ because it was causing a huge uptick in sales of ARMA 2 before they made it standalone.
I want to play it but it doesn't play well with the Steam version of the game for some reason, and none of the workarounds have actually worked for me.
- Oh, uh, did you try downgrading the steam version first as per the instructions?
- remember when the full version of Fallout: London came out and Bethesda had a sale on FO4 on GOG specifically because of this issue? I'm not saying "oh you're such an idiot for not buying the GOG version back then". just bringing it up because i think it's neat, a rare W for Bethesda/Microsoft.
Why not link to the actual project? I was not aware and wondered about the name. My brain always read Hellgate London.
- https://fallout4london.com/
- Oh, I was more trying to have a discussion about it than link folks to it.
  
  Yeah, but if you want more people to talk about it with you should link it anyway, so others can try it out.
Sadly, I've not been able to get past the train bit at the start without the game crashing.
- Same. 😔
  
  Maybe I'll come back to it someday when I feel like troubleshooting more.
- Which version are you running? Earlier versions didn't include Buffout 4, but with Buffout 4 either added manually or in the latest version that should fix it.
  
  Not sure what version but it had Buffout packaged and didn't work, not even after I replaced the mod files manually.
I vow to play this one day when it's stable.
- I think as long as the patched version is used and weapon debris is disabled it should be pretty stable.
  
  I see, thank you. I'll have to look again.
It's kind of a shame that the pistol anarchists weren't really a faction.

All the groups the game marks as 'official' factions are all pretty horrible and I'd rather see a london without any of them.

It does make sense though, the anarchists just like they would be in real life are concerned with looking after their own sector and are wise enough to realise than going outside of that would stretch them too thin.

Still, it would be nice to work with perhaps a coallition/federation of anarchist groups who don't want to control but genuinely improve london which all of the existing groups only want to do through control.

I'd really like an alternative to outright violence for revenge or control in these games. Only using it as a last resort or like a scalpel rather than an army of guns.
I can't wait to get a new PC eventually. I've been missing out on some exciting mods and PC games the past 5 or 6 years
- Hope you can get one soon!
  
  Possibly! It'll happen eventually. I'm in no rush I suppose. I've got plenty in my backlog already and not enough time haha

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