Firefox because it isn't chromium, and I just like it. With chromium, google controls the web. Doesn't matter what kind of wrapper a third party puts on it. It's still chromium and it's still google.
@jon@vivaldi.net I like Zen browser because it comes with vertical tabs, screenshot feature, and familiar dev tools.
Moreover, unlike Safari, it works well on macOS and Slack notification. When I checked my Slack tab on Safari, I usually found that it didn't load the page yet although I didn't shutdown or restart the computer.
@jon@vivaldi.net I choose Vivaldi as my favorite because I like many things about it. I use my home computer now for recipes, cash spreadsheets, and a shopping list. I had not previously used social media and this is a nice surprise for me to enjoy it. I used Netscape before Metacrawler and then I used shelves of books until trying Firefox. I used Chrome then Edge before I retired, but used Firefox and DuckDuckGo on home computers until I noticed Vivaldi about two years ago and put it on my home computer and laptop and cellphone. I like its many options and features and forums full of answers to questions I might ever need ask! It gives me a calendar and note and task pads and all sorts of things which optionally can sync and be seen when I use the browser on my cellphone or to choose not to sync. The very best is, when I removed Windows Operating System from my old laptop and replaced it with one of the Linux distributions now this Vivaldi continues to give me my familiar user experience. Thank you, to all and everyone who is and who are responsible for allowing me this user experience which followed me between operating systems, thank you.
@jon@vivaldi.net I would love to use Vivaldi, but unfortunately the Ad-Blocker on Android isn't very good - Firefox using ublock-extension or Brave is doing a much better job there.
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Just wish Google was not used in vivaldi , so when I don't want their influence I use ddg . if there is a way to keep Google completely out of Vivaldi. I'd like to know how.
Thanks MTT
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, because its the only real alternative to chrome and its clones, firefox its still the most customizable browser, vivaldi its the second, but the biggest con of vivaldi feels that its the slower among chrome clones
I'm migrating fron Firefox to LibreWolf (sorry, I prefer non-chrome based browsers), but have a Ungoogled Chromium as a backup those times Firefox/LibreWolf doesn't cut it (I thought the world had learnt a lesson from the IE days; seems we need to educate a new generation web hipsters).
On Android I use the default browser (in @e_mydata@mastodon.social) for a few news/blog sites, Mull and Vivaldi for some other sites and DuckDuckGo when searching. Default browser is Mull with Privacy Mode enabled by default.
I honestly don't like that the Chrome based browsers seems to be dominating these days. We need a heterogeneous web render environment to ensure a single dominant player dictates how things will be for users.
And without such competition, I fear there will be a lesser drive to further improve browsers. Just like when Netscape seemed too complacent with their own browsers back in the days.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, largely because I like supporting an alternative (non-Blink) rendering engine - I think a rendering engine monoculture is very dangerous for the internet as a whole.
@jon@vivaldi.net I’ve been using Vivaldi lately, but I also like Firefox and Librewolf. However the internet today feels like that of 2000, so many websites only work with todays IE (Chrome), so yeah, the options are either Chromium or Gecko; and the latter doesn’t work for all websites.
@jon@vivaldi.net After dropping Opera, I now mostly use Waterfox. Vivaldi is also on my desktop and laptop. But so is Brave, Firefox and DuckDuckGO. Edge is also on there, but only because MS won't allow me to remove it :(
@jon@vivaldi.net I’m currently trying Zen, which is FF inside and Arc outside, basically.
Re: why, I think Chrome is the new IE6, and we need more engines to keep the web open
I use Vivaldi but I would really like to see more attention to quality. Breaking things randomly in minor releases and then taking half a year to fix them is not okay, guys. A public issue tracker would also help, instead of the scream-into-the-void bug report form. I understand that you've taken everything from the old Opera team, but this part should've been left behind.
Vivaldi is close for me on Mobile because it works really well, but I'm using the Fennec version of Firefox from F-droid currently and it's a favorite, with Vivaldi close behind. Close on mobile because it's the second closest thing for me on privacy goals, and Firefox & forks on Android are a bit buggy.
Firefox (preferably forks) on desktop fully because of the UI being open source, no slight against Vivaldi for that, I fully understand the reasoning for not doing so. I just prefer open source so I bias towards as much as possible of it when not overly difficult to do so.
I do not trust Mozilla, more open source nature of the app allows me to take trust of ownership out of the equation a bit, especially so with forks.
@jon@vivaldi.net I used FF since its first release, its my workhorse, and I use a lot of privacy plugins. I like the Interface, its fast, zoom is good, And my perception is, the plugin interface is more open and there are more powerful plugins as with chome based browsers
also I liked opera in the past and such the vivaldi concept is really nice.
its fast, the redraw when zooming is distracting, zoom could have more finer steps,
@jon@vivaldi.net For me on Windows performance is more or less the same for all the above browsers. Edge is decent and do all what the average user needs. I like Vivaldi because is tweakable (I like the idea of the mail client but something on the UI doesn't work for me, maybe I'm only used with Outlook). Firefox because I use it since it was Phoenix and I'm so sorry it is dieing.
@jon@vivaldi.net I use Vivaldi on my Mac because it has a Chromium base, so it has a lot of compatibility benefits that provides, while also providing good privacy and a great experience that I can customize to work how I want it. I used to be a large proponent of Firefox, but I don’t like their recent modus operi of shoving god-knows what into the browser.
I also really like Safari. It’s a great mobile browser, and even on the Mac it gives me good battery life, and syncs across all my Apple devices.
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On macOS it doesn’t feel native like f.e. Orion does. Also often the scrolling feels weird: content not moving as fast as your finger.
@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi because it's the most like Opera 12.18 and before, at least in spirit.
LibreWolf in second place because it's more privacy focused than FireFox and I got used to FireFox between opera's terrible switch to being chromium-based and Vivaldi being available.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, but I can’t really explain why because it’s a lot of tiny things that make it better, but the fact it isn’t Chromium-based is probably the most significant point. And probably a bit of nostalgia too.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox because of its tweaks. I admire what Vivaldi has achieved, but Firefox can achieve almost the same with extensions. The only thing missing in Firefox are native tab groups, but they are a work in progress according to their site.
If Firefox vanished tomorrow, I would quite likely use Vivaldi. I was an Opera user in the old days. Vivaldi is the only browser that follows that spirit today.
@jon@vivaldi.net I found out that also Edge is quite nice. Very friendly, the tabs can be moved to the side position, the same panel as in Vivaldi, excellent translator. But there is not so easy to switch between search engines, also not so easy to switch to the main workspace, and there's almost no Speed Dial.
I've been living with Edge (on macOS, imagine) for some months when Vivaldi has several annoying bugs, but later I came back to Vivaldi, and now Edge is my second browser, for some different cases :) Good luck!
@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi + Brave All features potential of Vivaldi (panels, second-level tabs, workspaces, page actions, page tiling, translator, reading list...) + privacy/cookies/certificates/ad-blocker... features of Brave
Vivaldi has been my daily driver since 1.0, i can't live without tab tiling and vertical tabs in my work. Would love to have the ability to sort my open tabs by domain or an alpha sort.
Please continue to improve the Adblock functions. It doesn't compare to manifest v2 ublock origin yet.
@jon@vivaldi.net #vivaldibrowser is by far the best. It saves me so much time. I need to have many tabs open in several windows in several virtual desktops in several monitors. Workspaces, tabs stacking and tab search are lifesavers. The quick search has a built-in calculator that I use all the time. It's the most innovative and customizable browser there is. Sync is flawless. I use it in Mac, Windows and Android.
#Edge would be my 2nd choice. I like how fast it loads in my old Windows laptop, probably because it's pre-loaded. I like the way Bing presents the search results and the Copilot integration. I love the read-aloud feature. It recognizes the language automatically and it sounds very natural.
@jon@vivaldi.net I use safari on Mac as it is the only browser that works with the Apple Passwords app. If Vivaldi worked with it I would use that instead
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I don't have one anymore. They all seem to either embraced tge AI BS, will be ruined be Google's F-ing manifest v3, ir they're made by yucky folk.
As soon as anyone outs out a browser that just shows websites and allows for best possible privacy without dicking around, I'll use that.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox for now, although for how much longer is unknown. Over the course of time, it's become slower and somewhat bloated from what I can tell.
I've been tweaking and twiddling another browser, when I have time, to see if a smooth transition can eventually take place.
@jon@vivaldi.net I use Vivaldi for several years on both, desktop (Windows) and mobile (Android), and i can tell you all without fear, without no regrets, that it give me all what i need to surf internet on the better and secure way i ever prof with any other browser
@jon@vivaldi.net Pale Moon. It's single-process, so if something goes wrong, I can kill the browser simply. It supports the plugins and extensions I need, want, and use on a daily basis. It doesn't support DRM, RTC, or the concepts pushed on us by DoubleClick. I'm very happy with the browser.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox is my favorite when I can use it, but at least on my new Mac, I found Firefox was misbehaving for inexplicable reasons. Shrug, I don’t mind Safari that much, and for when AdGuard for Safari isn’t working, I also have AdGuard Home running on my home network.
FF is totally open source and often renders fonts better than Chromium-based browsers and the PDF reader is more robust. I'm currently working through an online training module and it's the only PDF program that lets me highlight sections of the provided documentation and will remember changes when I save the document.
Vivaldi has a ton of features and is pretty quick and responsive, especially on Android. Still having odd issues with the mail client and I'm really not sure what to make of or do with the new dashboard though.
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Vivaldi is my daily driver, looking into Librewolf as my not-Chrome.
What I'd really like is the Vivaldi shell, as & tracker blocking, etc, with the Firefox HTML & js engines. No google or moz bullshit, just a nice clean shell and engines.
Sometimes i take Vimb for lighter browsing, but for the most time i stay attached to Firefox for the whole browsing experience and sync my tablet, laptop & smartphone with it.
@jon@vivaldi.net I run with @Waterfox@mastodon.social and @brave@mastodon.social on my daily machines, but have access to #Opera, #Edge, #Firefox and #Chrome for UI testing.
@jon@vivaldi.net After testing all the browsers my favourite is Vivaldi due to their focus on privacy and no crypto crap. I also like to browse their forums which has been helpful to me at times.
@jon@vivaldi.net I have no favourite browser anymore since Opera 12. I don't want to support the Chromium dominance but Firefox still feels clunky. I have some sympathy for the Zen browser project. And then there's Vivaldi, with a lot of stuff I appreciated when I was still using Opera. But … Chromium, you know 🤷.
@jon@vivaldi.net It is my default browsing. Completely customizable, I adjust it to my way and it has many options and pluses such as blog, note taking, RSS reader, translator and much more.
@jon@vivaldi.net I was a long-time Opera aficionado, only dropped it when they switched to WebKit (and then Blink) and the last Presto-based version became obsolete (TLS-wise, mostly). Switched to Firefox, with which I'll stick as long as it maintains Gecko. Would love to jump to Vivaldi, but we need more independent rendering engines for the health of the web.
As a technology enthusiast, I’d like to share my perspective on this.
Firefox has been my go-to browser for a while, mainly because of:
Multi-Account Containers: Perfect for managing multiple profiles or accounts seamlessly.
RAM Efficiency: It’s lightweight and doesn’t hog system resources.
Privacy Focus: With its 100% open-source nature and stellar reputation as a privacy-first browser, it’s hard to beat.
Vivaldi, on the other hand, has a special place in my heart for its unique and productivity-oriented features:
Page Tiling: A brilliant tool for working with multiple pages side by side—ideal for multitaskers.
Plain Text/Markdown Notes: This feature is a gem for academic researchers and avid readers like me, making it easy to jot down notes directly from web pages.
Web Panels: Super handy for accessing frequently used sites without leaving your main tabs.
Customizable Dashboard: A lovely productivity hub and a virtual assistant.
A Few Observations
While Vivaldi excels in many areas, there are a couple of things I’d like to highlight:
High RAM Usage: Vivaldi can be quite demanding on memory.
Text-to-Speech Feature: Adding a natural and seamless "Read Aloud" feature would make it even more user-friendly.
Firefox because only it supports (via an extension) having different sessions in different tabs, so I can log into 3 different accounts at the same website at the same time and use the same browser window for all of them. I need this and won't move to a different browser.
@jon@vivaldi.net Orion! We got a kagi subscription a while back and I enjoyed it so much I decided to try their browser. It blocks youtube ads on all my devices, so it's a keeper
@jon@vivaldi.net Opera from before the switch to chromium remains my favorite to this day, every browser I've used since doesn't feel as feature complete or as fun as Opera did.
@jon I'm a Vivaldi supporter since V1. Because of open privacy (MV3) and open finger printing support I use more & more FF and Zen in the last months ... ;-( But I love Vivaldi, great team support and the Vivaldi style
@jon@vivaldi.net Vivaldi loyal since its early days for its customisability and ear to the user, even though I find its hosting of user accounts quite glitchy.