This still baffles me, but I guess it's good for federation?

Also lemmy.world is not the most stable instance and experiences a lot of downtime. My user experience got a lot better after I moved out of lemmy.world.

Sucks but if Lemmy.World is gonna be the "face" of Lemmy it's probably best to keep the shadier sides of the fediverse out. Just to keep the damn lawyer trolls off our back.

Plus it keeps the "uninitiated normies" out of the Piracy instance. At least until they know.

Holy fucking shit they're blocking piracy? What a bunch of losers. Get off the anti-corporate platform built on copyleft principles if you have a problem with piracy.

i feel like blocking of instances leads to worse echo chambers than subreddits themselves. We gonna have bubbles of federation networks that don't federate with each other. E.g. lefties, righties, "dark web" illegal shit, kinky shit, and instances that federate with all of them will be blocked by other instances because "use my blacklist or get defederated". This is gonna lead to hell for users having to create fifty accounts for each bubble. Aint nobody got time for that.

i wish it remained a user's option to block/unblock content they don't/do want to see. Each instance could provide their "recommended" default list of enabled instances, and user can go and enable others, like how NSFW toggle works. Maybe group instances into categories with tags or something, like "porn", "memes", "tankies", "nazis", "warez", etc

Not sure why nobody in the comments is distinguishing between blocking a community on an instance (removing /c/piracy) and defederating instances (saying your users can't subscribe to otherinstance.com/c/piracy). They are very different things. We should be very skeptical of defederation.

Removing a community because it violates the rules of your instance is A-OK and every instance should do this. Anybody can run an instance, and anybody can set their own rules, that's the whole idea of federation.

De-federating other instances because you find their content objectionable is less ok. Lemmy is like e-mail. Everybody registers at gmail or office365 or myfavoriteemail.com. Every email host runs their own servers, but they all talk to each other through an open protocol. You would be pissed to find out that gmail just suddenly decided to stop accepting mail from someothermailprovider.com because a bunch of their users are pirates or tankies. Or blocked your favourite email newsletter from reaching your inbox because it had inflammatory political content.

Allowing your users to receive e-mail, or content from subcommunities on other lemmy instances is not a legal risk like hosting the content yourself is (IANAL etc). Same way Gmail is not liable if somebody on some other e-mail server does something illegal by emailing a gmail user. That's why you can register at torrentwebsite.com and get a user confirmation email successfully delivered to your inbox. Gmail is federated with all other e-mail services without needing to endorse them or accept legal liability for them.

Lemmy's strength, value, and future comes from being the largest federated space for link-sharing and other forms of communication.

De-federation is bad.

Lemmy.world is turning vanilla. They closed the shrooms community too!

Facilitating Piracy no matter how you put it is wrong and illegal, it is wrong and illegal to support people who do it.

Remember Netizen, when you're pirating Disney, you're downloading communism! programming-communism

I think lemmy.world is about to be rudely made aware of how many pirates were on their site.

Where is the piracy? (Asking for a friend.)

Uh…well I know what I’m about to do then. If I wanted some cunt to have unrestricted control over the content I see I would have stayed with Reddit and that pigboy spez.

Welcome fellow pirate!

Lemmy.world blocked the dbzer0 instance? I guess it's time to switch then...

The only thing that makes data useful to humanity is the fact that it can be copied - not copying data is unethical.

I have created my own instance. With blackjack! And hookers, err, NSFW.

I found a cheap VPS and the easy_deploy script from git, that's how it started. And for 10 €/month I'll keep it going with a user count of 1.

I've begun blocking their communities in my accounts and I plan to defederate from them when i get home. Fuck em. Place is infested with exploding heads anyway.

Anyone know of a good/current breakdown of the available instances? I landed on LW during the reddit exodus, and so far I've been happy here - haven't felt the itch to relapse back to reddit or the need to find a new home on the fed... even this piracy thing isn't a deal breaker for me personally since I don't really engage in that content anyway - but on principle I dislike that it's been blocked.

Despite all that, I wouldn't mind poking my head around just to see what's up, and maybe find my nice little niche, but I don't know the best way to actually go about navigating the fed.

Any Lemmy instance list which shows communities that have been defed by each instances? Should help new users make better choices.

Context https://sh.itjust.works/comment/2181865

Ia there a list somewhere of insurances that do NOT blck piracy?

Also just a quick yes or no question: does lemmy.ml block piracy?

We just doubled our numbers somehow! Look at all these new users joining the fediverse 😅

Honest question, is there an app or frontpage that would allow to mix instances that are not federated? Unless an instance has access to everything, having two accounts will show a lot of duplicated contentent (for example, in "all" it will show technology@lemmy.world in likely all instances)

I know that is what broke the camels back for me, not that I personally partake in piracy but, it concerns me because if that is being done, what else could be being done. I understand the legal ramifications of the storage of it but, idk it just put a bad taste in my mouth, it was the first instance of censorship that didn't make full sense and was made due to a random account that was downvoted to oblivion, was super concerning. I still have an account on it but, it made me aware I needed more variety

As an alternative to lemmy.world I would like to suggest my own instance endlesstalk.org.

I have no plans to deferate or ban anything releated to piracy. Only thing that might change my mind would probably be a company taking legal action against me.

I also strive to have as little downtime as possible and keep everything running smoothly.

I joined over there because, funnily enough, that was on of the few instances not blocked by my work. 🤷

Is there an official blocked communities list and defederated list for each instance? Also can you have the same username on a different instance? I fear we are going to lose people who don't really care that much about the federation stuff and just want to use Lemmy like reddit. Although I guess reddit is similar in that they decide what communities are allowed as well...

I know, right? How dare they stop us from stealing movies and computer games!

100% understand why Lemmy World did this. Piracy opens the floodgates for legal trouble and is largely the reason why the piracy community over on Reddit is probably one of the most sanitized, locked-down and censored parts of the site.

Would you want a non-profit being sued to oblivion because somebody posted torrent links?

Lemmy.world banned piracy so a lot of people will stop using lemmy.world, splitting the load

Sounds pretty reasonable to me if the loser dweebs at lemmy.world want to ban the piracy comms. lol, even reddit-logo allows piracy subs.

Sucks for us interested in it but It's completely understandable. Making an account on another instance and transferring your data takes no time at all, which is exactly what I did.