[ChrisMedlandF1] Reprimand and €5000 fine for Norris for the aborted start infringement. Result stands

Formula 1 has become a joke. If a driver would do the same in a karting championship, they would be instantaneously disqualified.

Norris has the right passport 😜

A complete joke that McLaren, Merc, VCARB and Haas get off almost scott free for breaking the rules. It makes no sense to me that Hamilton got two 5 second penalties in Sochi 2020 for doing a practice start from the wrong spot in the pitlane but shit like this goes unpunished. At least the top 3 should have gotten time penalties because they are the ones who instigated it.

So.checo gets 5 seconds.. but nothing here?

Checo got a sporting advantage. Norris didnt
- Checo got a sporting advantage. Norris didnt
  
  What about "judge the infraction, not the outcome" that gets repeatedly quoted when somebody was suffering a big crash but the guilty driver gets only 5 secs or so? Starting infraction is starting infraction.
- Norris created a potential dangerous situation for Stewards, much worse than a sporting advantage.
- Sporting advantage is not the only criteria involved when dishing out penalties as we saw with Bearman's penalty today. He was the one who spun because of the contact and yet he was the one who was punished because the contact was his fault

Kind of a weak fine if you compare it to Verstappen's 50.000 fine for touching a rear wing a couple of years ago.

Absolutely. LeClerc was fined €5000 (+€5000 suspended) for using profanity outside the track. Profanities are now more severely punished than illegally driving on a track while stewards and a driver are walking around.

Yesterday a team provisionally earned €30,000,000. A fine of €50,000 is a joke when compared to rewards like that. If touching a competitor's car provides information that makes you win races, it is absolutely worth it. See https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/the-mercedes-rear-wing-marks-behind-red-bulls-suspicions/6799537/ and https://www.racefans.net/2021/11/13/verstappen-fined-e50000-as-stewards-rule-he-did-no-direct-harm-touching-hamiltons-rear-wing/
People have received up to 1 minute penalties for similar starting infringements back in the 90ies.. so yeah it is weak

The result wouldn't have changed much even with all the guilty parties rightfully recieving a 5 sec penalty. Russell would still be ~~3rd~~ 4th, Norris would still be 6th, Yuki would still be 7th, piastri would still be 8th and ollie would still be 12th. The only beneficiary would be perez who would move upto 9th after the penalties for lawson and lewis who would drop to 10th and 11th respectively.

Came looking for this. Thanks OP.

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