Why do some men dis other men who sit to pee? (& follow-up questions)
I'm not really looking to hear from people who don't think this way, with answers like "insecurity", "toxic masculinity", etc. I want to hear answers from men who really detest men who sit to pee.
Follow-up questions:
when you have to piss while shitting, do you stand up turn around and piss on your shit and then sit back down to finish shitting?
are you ever groggy in the morning?
how clean is your toilet and surrounding floor, and whose job is cleaning it?
I cant ever recall a time I have questioned, or been questioned, as to why a guy would sit to pee. I sit at home because its more comfortable. I stand at public toilets because the seats are gross
You're not going to hear from men who actually do this because they don't have a good reason and aren't typically comfortable with the kind of introspection the question demands.
Some people are exclusionary pricks who look for excuses to judge others. They don't have or need a reason. It's bullying.
I want to hear answers from men who really detest men who sit to pee.
I fear that you will not many of these kinds of people on Lemmy. If you really want a good answer, you'd have to post it somewhere like Twitter or Truth Social.
As a man WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TELLING ME HOW YOU PEE!?!
What god damn conversation is going on!?! How the hell did this come up? We don't normally talk about this!
I always sit to pee when I'm at home, mostly so I don't have to worry about spray/drippage/seat positions, but I also believe that men have this amazing power where we have the ability to stand and pee... and I think the biggest flex you can make when you have amazing power is to only use that power when it makes sense. Restraint is power.
I mostly sit down when I pee because my cat likes to spend quality time when I'm on the toilet and he gets upset if into in the bathroom and don't sit down.
Remember manliness is not caring about how other people define manliness.
I always prefer to sit unless I'm in a huge hurry. It's called a restroom for a reason. I'm going to take a break, browse Lemmy or something, and otherwise "rest". I'll return to work when I'm ready.
What really pisses me off is when I hear someone enter another stall to take a standing piss. They rarely put the seat up and always get pee all over everything. If you're going to stand, use a urinal. There's nothing more pathetic than being afraid to whip your dick out beside your fellow man, and instead, choose to piss on the place where others want to take a sit.
When I was in medical school, I had to drop a deuce during a break between lectures. While I was in there, performing spectacularly, some other guy came into the restroom (situated just outside the lecture hall) and shouted "Is somebody takin' a shit in here!?"
and I was just like, "...yeah, where else would I do it?"
But I feel like that guy who openly questioned why someone would shit in a bathroom, is exactly the same type of guy that would question someones masculinity over how they choose to take a piss.
Is this still a thing that people get upset about though? Personally I think a man sitting down just to pee is kind of silly, but I certainly wouldn't make fun or get upset about it. I think the last time I heard someone make a joke about men sitting to pee was like 15 years ago lol
I'm a cis-bi man married to a cis-gay man: I had to tell him to sit his ass on the toilet to piss because the area around the toilet was constantly filthy. I cannot believe still to this day how difficult it was to convince him why it is a good idea to just sit down to piss. If you cannot control the stream direction and shape perfectly when you piss (spoiler alert, you cannot), then sit down where you can spray the toilet bowl.
I will go ahead and be the only person to honestly engage with the terms of your question.
There is a movement that started a long time ago and continues today to "domesticate" boys. Boys are invariably more disobedient in controlled classrooms and group activities and so they need to be "broken in" and taught how to conform to the requirements of modern life and education. Girls tend to fit into this structure more easily as can be attested by the higher educational outcomes among women in countries that allow them to achieve it.
With this in mind there is a lot of resentment against this "breaking in" process. This metastasizes when boys hear all about how "toxic" they are by virtue of how they were born, how much more trouble they are to deal with etc. The emotional response is to resist all attempts to demasculinize them, even in the case of something as inconsequential as bathroom etiquette.
This is an honest representation of the perspective in question. Don't get all passed off at me for being capable of presenting it.
There is an argument for standing to pee since it empties the urethra more completely compared to sitting to pee. This is mostly relevant for 40+ people since they are more likely to have any issues.
Simple trick to shit/sit and pee and still empty everything is to push on the area between dick and butthole.
I pee sitting down at home because I use a toilet SEAT. It is designed to be used sitting down. Put a urinal in your home if you're too insecure to pee sitting down.
The King James Bible has the phrase those who "pissith against the wall" several times. In context it's pejorative for the rude class or enemies of King David, but Christians who insist on the KJV struggle to read and understand it, and have taken it as God's own description of male. and therefore pissing standing up isn't just an aspect of masculinity, but it's essence.
I had a toilet where the seat just wouldn't stay up. It was just easier to sit. And even when I didn't have this toulet I would sit in the middle of the night to keep the noise down and not have to turn on the light. I called this the "tactical piss".
But guys who are just super against it are weird. Doesn't make you any less of a guy my guy.
I just discovered the joys of sitting to pee this past year. I just never thought about it before, and only sat to pee if I had to poop too... though I can't say I ever cared whether someone else sat or stood to pee
But I had two separate fainting spells while standing to pee after getting out of bed (orthostatic hypotension), and almost really hurt myself the second time. Now, I often sit to pee at home because it's just more comfortable (and apparently safer). Live and learn I guess
Where do these questions even come from? Unless ts a challenge like peeing off a cliff, why would anyone care? Why would it even come up in conversation? Aside from one guy on Lemmy, who even brings it up?
I don't think people really care, lol. Unless they like to learn their friends peeing preferences, they probably have an ulterior motive if they are that interested.
I have made fun of another man for peeing sitting down, but in a manner comparable to making fun of an ugly outfit. The very hidden secret is I sit to pee sometimes too, and I have ugly clothes that I wear sometimes. To answer the other questions:
If I'm already sitting, I'd pee sitting, 100% of the time.
Yes, and that's one reason I would sit to pee.
Not spotless, but it seems normal to me. If there's pee visible anywhere, I wipe it with paper. My wife mops the floor more often than I do.
I actually can't pee with other people in the room, so public washrooms are a nightmare. But I learned that I can pee real easy in them while I'm sitting down to take a shit. So anytime I'm in one with other people, I just chill in the stall and pretend to take a shit. Might even fiddle with toilet paper after a while and flush just to keep the charade going.
Well, through that I learned that sitting to piss feels waayyyy fucking better. Especially in the middle of the night after crawling out of bed. I'm married, have a kid, and no longer care if people know I sometimes sit to pee.
I dis other men who sit when they pee (without shittin) because its “womenly”. Only women sit when they pee. Why are you sitting as a man when you pee? Are you gay?!!.
Aight follw up questions
I don't sit when i pee because it is convenient
When i have to piss while taking a shit i do it sitting because it is convenient
Groggy if i don't have a good nights sleep.
I clean my toilet every week. It is clean enough
Might be weird passion but i want to do cse and help the piracy community.
There will always be insecure men (and people in general) who criticize others over nonsense topics that they've convinced themselves is proof they aren't whatever insecure thing they're afraid of being.
My wife does the bathroom cleaning while I do other things like the vacuuming and dishes. The first time I had to clean the bathrooms and saw the amount of splatter I never peed standing again in our or any friends' bathrooms. I still have the option of peeing standing in public urinals and in the wild, so no "masculinity" is lost anyway, not that I give sexist bullshit the time of day anyway.
I’m afraid I really have no answers for you… but then again I don’t think I’m your survey pool.
But I did once stay at a small hotel in Germany that had a sticker imploring male guess to sit and pee. I pissed all over that poor toilet before we left.
15 years later I feal guilt but also righteous indignation. I really hate being told what to do apparently… even when there are good reasons like another human being, asking you to not make their life hard 😞
Years ago a Psych episode had Burton say "all the men's health journals agree" that it's better for your circulation, and I never looked back (nor fact checked).