Why No One Will Get Fired Over ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’
Why No One Will Get Fired Over ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’
"It's a huge disaster, but what is the fallout?" asks one source after the sequel to the $1 billion hit bombs at the box office and is rejected by critics and audiences alike.
I was interested when I heard it was going to be a musical.
I was turned off when I found it was just licensed music and would not have any original songs. Like... What's the point of making a musical if you're not gonna make new songs specifically for the story?
Ahhhh this is the first time hearing it isn't original music. I took for granted that a musical would have original songs.
Worked for Moulin Rouge
The caveat there is Moulin Rouge was a musical to begin with and didn't have any prior expectations.
It's not a new concept. They are called jukebox musicals. It works well for this story imho.
The point is Joker escaping into familiar songs to cope with reality.
If they can somehow fit pre-existing music into the film, it can be fun to see essentially several high budget musical clips of known songs at once and also a film. Bollywood can be good at this. That is clearly not the case with Joker 2, but if they had made psychological mad sequences with Bonnie and Clyde having killing and crime sprees with psychedelical metal music etc, it could work.
Neither Phillips nor Phoenix was even sure about making a sequel and, for a time, contemplated putting on a Broadway show instead, before ultimately committing to the movie and bringing aboard Gaga in a role inspired by the comic book character Harley Quinn. The idea for the sequel came to Phoenix in a dream, and he and Phillips brought the idea to Emmerich, according to sources.
In the end, some are saying that Joker: Folie à Deux is a very expensive art film. But when asked who the intended audience was, one outside source sums it up this way: “For Joaquin.”
I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall:
I don't want to make a sequel movie to Joker.
Well wait until you hear this: Joaquin has had a dream...
Oh dear.
And they are going to pay you $20M each!
I'm listening.
Maybe Joaquin's dream was about him receiving a $20m check.
"I had a dream... of cheeky cash-grab"
Oh good Lord I saw your quote here and I thought they were talking about Roland Emmerich for a sec. That would have been wild if he was involved in this film.
I will throw down for emmerich the dude knows how to entertain
Is it high art? No. But jesus is it a spectacle.
In the end, some are saying that Joker: Folie à Deux is a very expensive art film.
Oh wow, that is exactly what I said to my friends as we left the theater
Interesting that it had no test screening. Would the movie have been savable with reshoots and re-edits?
Release the reddig33 Cut!
Only if they reshoot the entire film with another script, they practically did a Matrix 4 again, just because a minority of fans of the first film had bad takes they ruined what many normal people loved.
I liked it.
Same. It's not a bad film. It is a fairly logical progression from the first movie. I was actually surprised it wasn't more fantastical. There were several points where they could have escalated to a city wide musical caper, but they kept it grounded.
Because they have money to burn?
WDB is deep in debt, taken on when they merged. So no they don’t have money to burn.
They spent less than they pay their ceo
If they’d put in double stair kicks this would have made $2 billion.