Meanwhile, at RedHat Headquarters

This looks like exactly what Red Hat wanted. Other distributions to use CentOS Stream and contribute to the open source community instead of just copying their work. Hardly a "pitchfork mob."
- I agree. Still fun nonetheless, seeing some of the biggest players banding together against a competitor.
  
  It's still an issue though for mainly science areas with large HPC clusters who need stable supported OS releases for extremely expensive specialty software. Looking at the pricing, Redhat now wants to take quite a large chunk in licensing fees out of science budgets.

You know things have gone wrong when people are cheering on Oracle.

Finally Americans discovering Lizard based distros

There are dozens of us!
- 🦎 🩳
- Baker's dozens!
I always hear opensuse is a really great distro with features and lot of gui accessible settings (starting services, and apps,etc) not available anywhere else, really good stability and the latest packages unlike any Debian based distro, but in the same time they say it's not newbie friendly so am kinda not sure if i want to use it.
- I would say there's a lot that makes it a good choice for new users. Yast itself gives you a lot of admin tasks in a gui. You have btrfs with snapshots out the box. The installer allows you to install multiple de's and enable propriety software. Obs let's you find everything you need software wise. The biggest issue is knowing it's all there.

I'm OOTL, what?

Basically RedHat changed their source code policy and have ostracized the open source community.
- Not entirely, they have restricted access to the source code for paying customers, which is absolutely allowed by the license(s). Whether that’s understandable because they need money too, or unethical because it violates the principles of OSS is up to yourself to decide.
- are they getting sued?
SUSE and Oracle formed a pitchfork mob against Redhat yesterday.

CentOS under the chair, lol. I still can't believe the fiasco with CentOS 8.

yepp - our compute cluster runs rocky8, and will have to transition (again..) to something else, probably suse.

Been there, it's not fun. Transitioned the new HPC cluster from redhat to suse. Switched to Centos after a few years on suse due to pricing and their software becoming more and more unstable. The following cluster got CentOS from the start and then got migrated to rocky after they switched Centos to rolling release. It's not easy running this stuff...
- we've transitioned before from CentOS 7 to Rocky 8 and it was not too bad, mostly just a good amount of planning and testing. we've got about 160,000 cores between 2 clusters (1277 nodes that i help manage, and 825 that are located at a facility that handles hardware for us) -- fortunately I do primarily hardware work so don't deal with the software headaches myself, and the people that do are very capable - but typically you'll have incompatibilities, and a lot of user support stuff for the first couple weeks until things smooth out.

It's mostly sad but I had to laugh really damn hard when Oracle wrote about "keeping open source open", fucking Oracle!!!