Banned from worldnews@lemmy.ml for arguing that hating on gays doesn't make you a hero.
Banned from worldnews@lemmy.ml for arguing that hating on gays doesn't make you a hero.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20797683 [https://lemmy.ml/post/20797683] > By Nader Durgham in Beirut and Umar A Farooq in Washington > Published date: 28 September 2024 09:35 BST
How is the idea that two evils can fight each other so hard to understand? Not all fights are between a good and a evil.
Seriously. There are also people on Lemmy that think anyone who has sympathy for civilians also support terrorists.
How absolutely fucking brain-dead do you have to be to not understand that killing civilians is wrong? You can hate the rulers of Israel, Hamas, and Hezbollah while simultaneously hoping that Israeli, Palestinian, and Lebanese civilians don't get hurt.
This isn't rocket science.
It doesn't help that they have the emotional maturity of toddlers
Also the intellectual maturity.
You’ve got to wonder how much of it is genuine and how much is some in a third world country being paid by putin/xi to spread propaganda on social media
Yeah and they also forget that something evil can have elements or components that arent evil. You wont kill every employee of a company because the ceo is evil. You wont kill every palestanian or israeli because the IDF and hamas are terrorist organizations.
Reality is a team sport, to some people. The conservative worldview is defined by interpersonal loyalty. There is some rightful order to things, and it's your job to justify and promote that, by stringing together argument-shaped sentences. They think that's all anyone's doing.
And yes, I would call tankies conservatives. The word doesn't refer to right-wing policies. It means "well somebody's gotta be king." They use leftist language, and absorb some leftist motivation, but any of it and all of it will go out the window for the social game of maintaining loyalty.
You simply side with the weaker side. Losing is a sign of virtue. /s
That explains why they are fans of Russia as well.
I think it is difficult for children to understand nuance like that. Aren't cartoons always very obvious about who is in the right?
Your statement is akin to saying the Allies in WW2 were no heroes. In fact they were also the bad guys because they were racist and homophobic. Thus WW2 was a "complex and nuanced" issue.
It is fights between arbitrary stance with no factual evidence and arbitrary stance with no factual evidence.
Actually it sounds a lot like a holly war
"America bad therefore all adversaries are good and all adversaries' actions are good."
Is resistance to Genocide good? No this is a nuanced complex issue and anyone saying it's not is an America hater! (Because israel = America right?)
Imagine having your head this far up your own ass.
Man I tell you. I often like your posts but sometimes your comments are just too much.
For opensource communities (the one topic their communities are usually quite popular)
That plus hex and lemigrad. It just cleans your feed.
You got banned, logged into an alt, said the same thing, got banned again...
And you were so surprised you had to make a post about it?
No idea who they are, we got banned at the same time. You can see the conversation in the original post
You read a post title, clicked the link and scrolled ALLLLLL the way down to comment this?
And you're here trying to shame this other person for talking about getting banned?
Lmao, typical tankie with the .world sock puppet account.
Based. Get wrecked Zionist troll.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkwashing_(LGBT)
Origin of the term
In April 2010, Queers Undermining Israeli Terrorism (QUIT) in the Bay Area, used the phrase pinkwashing as a twist on greenwashing, a practice where companies claim to be eco-friendly in order to make profit. Dunya Alwan was at a talk with Ali Abunimah, editor of Electronic Intifada in 2010, when he said "We won't put up with Israel whitewashing or greenwashing" and she thought "or pinkwashing!"
In 2011, Sarah Schulman used the term pinkwashing in a widely read The New York Times editorial arguing that Israel used the tactic in its public relations. Schulman saw pinkwashing as a manifestation of homonationalism, the processes by which some powers selectively agree with the claims of sexual minorities and exploit them to justify racism, xenophobia (rejection of foreign people), and aporophobia (rejection of the poor);
Just because Israel is using this for propaganda, doesnt mean that it isnt true(or important). The USSR used american racism against black people for propaganda but that doesnt mean that there was no racism in the US or that racism wasnt important(or relevant to the discussion between 2 global powers).
When someone tells you "gay people should be killed", i think it is relevant to the discussion you have about that person.
Yeah we heard this one in Gaza. The only group people throwing Palestinians off roofs is israel.
You sound less smart than an actual zionist
Thanks for the definition. So basically they got banned for "pretending" to support LGBQ? That's definitely interesting coming from a tankie.
Also, why are you posting to world news@Lemmy.ml? I think we have established that it is not a good community
Because Lemmy.World news communities are ran by Zionists which ban users for criticizing israel.
Then Hexbear is a obvious example of pinkwashing. Truly disgusting.
I got banned from the world news community on lemmy.world because I respectfully and politely disagreed with a moderator. https://lemmy.world/comment/12426224
You didn't politely disagree. He asked a direct question to which you earlier said to know the answer to.
What you kept repeating was not an answer to said question, and then you started playing stupid games against someone who's shown time again to have no patience for them.
Imagine you are an expert in software engineering, and imagine I asked you, “How do you build an app?” How would you directly answer that question?
Moreover, if it was obvious to you that the person wasn’t really interested in how to build apps, but they actually doubt it’s possible to build apps at all and they just want to waste your time arguing with you would never get your app approved on the App Store or something like that, how much detail would you be willing to go into about how to build apps? Would you take them through the whole process, start to finish? Would you point them towards resources they could use to learn how to build an app?
I answered the question quite extensively, with explanations and caveats. It should be very clear that while he (and you) may disagree with me, I am not making these arguments in bad faith, I’m not trolling, and I’m not being particularly rude or breaking any rules.
I’m definitely not playing any “games”, I’m just explaining my position the best way I can, but I’m also not trying to waste my time arguing with people who have zero genuine interest in taking what I say seriously.
What's the exact text of that respectful and polite deleted message?
It was a message I accidentally submitted before I had finished writing, then deleted so that I could continue to write it, but by the time I finished it, I was already banned. It was something along the lines of “I don’t really think you’re arguing in good faith here, because as you said, you “knew” before even starting this conversation that I wouldn’t have any practical ideas”, or something along those lines. If there’s any way to un-delete it I’d be happy to do that, if you know how I can? Or somehow recover the original text?
Edit: Never mind, figured out how to undelete it. Original comment is restored. I accidentally submitted just that fragment instead of a longer message I had intended on replying with.
"Does not make you an hero"
Id hope not
You never know in tankie land. They see Stalin as the great liberator
Can we get something more exciting than getting banned on Lemmy.ml for perfectly fine speech?
Well one of the mods over there is a clearly pro-Russian account.
I've been banned from that community (and all others on Lemmy.ml he is a mod on) several times by this account: davel@lemmy.ml
https://reddit.moonbeam.town/u/davel@lemmy.ml
He absolutely refuses to answer the question "are you pro-Russian" while fiercely touting Russian propaganda, saying Russian propaganda doesn't exist at all, denying Uighur genocide, advocating against Ukraine, all that jazz.
Ten bucks says he comes here whining about stalking again while refusing to answer if he supports Putler or not.
No doubt there's russia government propaganda out there but advocating against the ukrainian authoritarian government is not automatically "enemy" propaganda
Advocating against Ukraine in the context of the Russo-Ukrainian war, by spreading pretty much verbatim what Russian state news is touting.