During an MSNBC panel discussion on Donald Trump allowing himself to be influenced by far-right characters, which had a marked influence on his Tuesday night debate performance, contributor Ed Luce suggested the former president has quickly become his own worse enemy.Speaking with the hosts on "Morn...
I won't believe a single headline about Trump doing poorly. Not until after Kamala wins and is sworn in without another coup attempt. Anything short of that is delusional. Go out and vote, people.
Chokes on a hamburger while sitting on his gold shitter. The cacophony that ensues will be dismissed for another truth social posting. He'll be found the next day.
Yep. I've been forever hardened into a political and legal cynic starting with hanging chads and most recently, with the lack of Jan 6 accountability for Trump.
Biden dropping out was a wonderful and pleasant surprise. I was NOT getting my hopes up that he would step down, especially given the DNC's tendency to fuck up what should be easy wins.
This has been a fait accompli since 2015. The only thing I guessed wrong about this election 9 years ago was Pelosi actually being able to convince Biden to drop out.
I don't really get all the negative press the guy is getting from the left spun media. His supporters aren't disappearing.... instead they're coming out of the woodwork and showing their true colors that they've sworn all along isn't how they are. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more voters this year than any year before showing up for the biggest asshole to be elected president in my lifetime. Also the only one term president in my lifetime from voters because he is hated that much by the other half.
To so many conservatives racism doesn't exist. They aren't against black people or foreigners... but they are literally coming out front and center to be anti-black, especially since the pandemic era BLM protests. Springfield Ohio is just another perfect example of how racism not only exists, but is celebrated by about half the country. It's just insane that it isn't even shunned.
My favorite line from the debate was when dumpy said "we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums and they’re coming and they’re taking jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans and Hispanics" Are you fucking kidding me? Minimum and sub-minimum wage jobs are now "black and hispanic" jobs? That's what you're trying to force american citizens into? very low paying, low qol, minimum healthcare roles with no chance of advancement and no hope for a better future. Make america great again and bring back slavery right?
Sorry for the rant, I just can't believe how monstrous humans can be. There's just no more rational discourse or anything resembling sane critical thinking anymore in the media. It's all just outrage fuel and inane distractions. On the left media sites they keep saying it's doomsday for trump. They said he couldn't beat Hillary too and she had an even bigger point lead ahead of the election https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_110716/
We have to start admitting to ourselves, that as a species, we're still closer to nature than we are some amazing spacefaring civilization.
The thing is, I actually disagree here:
To so many conservatives racism doesn’t exist.
I've been around these people long enough to understand that's just not fucking true. They like to present it out in public like it is, but deep down, just like Trump, they're keenly aware of exactly how racist they are, they just don't like being called a racist. Its' about power. They want the power to be racist without being called racist. It's the same reason so many of them are legitimately fucking rapists.
Just like rape, it's not about sex, it's about power and control. They get off on the expression of power over others, whether its rape or anything else, anything where they can lord it over you, make you feel small, ashamed, and like you must do what they say because they have power over you. They fucking revel in it, and the lies about how they're not racist are to support that. Everything is a means to an end. That end is the Handmaid's Tale or worse. That's why they don't actually care about being racist, because racism itself is just an extension of having power over other people. It's just a racial way of dominance and control, it's just one of many ways to exert power over others and dominate them. The bottom line is it is always about power and control.
Further, I would blame the media landscape of the last 50 years, which has done a piss poor job of defining what a racist is, using the most extreme character tropes imaginable, so that actual racists can say to themselves "well I'm not like that wild caricature of a racist like Ulfric Stormcloak, so therefore I'm not racist."
As to your main point, I agree, there's enough terrible fucking people in the USA (and the world) to make this freak President again.
Having to wake up every morning and put my trust in people is the hardest thing I do everyday. I so very much want to believe there is good in everyone but all I have to do is look and I see what's inside of many Americans hearts is hideous. So when I look at my burger and it doesn't seem quite right, I'm suspicious. When I leave my car I lock the doors twice to make sure it's really locked. I don't keep anything personal in my work space, nothing I would care about losing. Nothing that means anything to me. When I am going through a rough patch I bottle it up inside. When my heart is as full as I can barely stand I pretend everything is just fine.
This is how I live and I wonder why I can't connect with anyone. I'm always afraid that right behind my neighbors eyes there is a monster and I assume they think the same of me.
It’s far more entertaining, clickworthy, and they will earn far more billions from watching him slowly crumble all the way to election day, and watching him throw a tantrum afterwards.
And who knows? We could have another January 6 on our hands, and they could earn so so much money selling advertising during the airing of that.
These people are fucking disgusting, and they’ll stop at nothing, I repeat nothing, to earn ad revenue off of every iota of your attention.
Honestly, shouldn't you be greatful that the media did this? Otherwise Biden would still be in, pretty much sealing in Trump to become the next president.
Just sad, that you couldn't get a candidate who doesn't support genocide (except the Greens).
I love how his campaign is spiraling out of control, yet every poll that comes out still has them in a statistical tie. I'd like it to spiral a little quicker please.
...What we've found for the last 10 years or so now is that when it comes to Republican candidates, and especially Trump, reality no longer matters. At all. There are 743,000 things that should have disqualified him for president. That Republicans should have noped out on, said "this is definitely not our guy". They just don't matter. For a number of reasons.
His campaign could be literally a dog shitting on a US flag. And it wouldn't change anything; he would still poll virtually the same. There are almost no actual "undecideds" leaning towards him.
At this point, it's about voter motivation and access. His guys CAN be less motivated to vote, and Harris supporters can definitely be more motivated to vote. That's where we are.
Isn't that true about all US elections? There are no "undecided" voters, just Dems and Reps and the result is always based on who can motivate their voters the most.
The guy they are quoting is acting like this a new phenomenon, but it's always been like this. Trump has always listened to the wackiest people. When he won the first time around, though, the Republican "establishment" won along with him and put some of their people on his cabinet. Now, Trump has driven away most of those old-guard Republicans, and all that is left are the loonies. So they are more visible this time around, but it's definitely not new.
It’s kinda like George Lucas. Everyone was shocked when the prequels came out with how bad they were but if you look into the original trilogy he had equally crazy ideas, he was just kept in check by a team because he wasn’t such a success he couldn’t have ALL the reigns.
It's funny watching some documentaries about it. The OT Star Wars we got was because of a lot of studio meddling, and GL had the foresight to negotiate merchandise rights.
The PT was entirely self-funded so studios didn't really have a say in things, plus he surrounded himself with Yes-Men.
We keep getting these reports yet the race is still 50/50. He might still win. I feel like he can call Kamala the n word and it still wouldn't affect his chances.
That's what is scary, especially with another part about all the shady yet very real ways he could win.
Despite him looking like and absolute baffoon Everytime he talks, and all the blatant lies and dripple, coupled with getting manhandled in the debate, all the lawsuits...the polls are still disturbingly close
Some states have enacted laws to literally meddle with votes and counts to the point some can absolutely reject the outcome
States passing laws to allow them to purposely delay the counts long enough that no one hits 270, it goes to court and scotus, or have Congress/house vote
Very real possibility if Harris does hit 270 first that Jan 6th becomes a slap fight by comparison to an actual coup attempt
The polls are worrying (the Dems need a lead of 3 percentage points uniformly to win), though methodology is a sticking point. Phone polls are biased towards people who answer phone calls from strangers, which is said to skew older. And the Republicans’ war on women’s rights is likely to lose them the female vote in a way that twentysomething incel Tate fans are unlikely to compensate for.
is always like this, for every presidential race as long as i can remember. it's suuuuper close every time and just enough for the fuckery to matter. wether that's hanging chads or swing states or electric voting machine fuckery.
The leadup is always breathless and neck-and-neck until election night and they have to start publishing totals.
I mean, this is something you could genuinely use an LLM for. "Find any grammatical errors in this text." I mean, a word processor could also do that, but oh well.
Also, since a lot of them seem at least partially trained on random internet content, and they don't seem to have much of a problem with grammar, I don't think that's a valid tactic.
All this negative news about trump everywhere makes me nervous. Don't forget how confident everyone was when Hillary ran. Most, including myself, didn't think trump stood a chance.
Kamala hasn't won yet. It's still close. And trump has an unswayable cult behind him that see all this negativity as fuel to vote even harder.
Dont get complacent or overconfident. trump could still win.
Also I’m sure despite him saying that he will not debate again, he’ll change his mind and do better in round 2 after they drill enough talking points in his head. It doesn’t take a lot for his base to claim a debate victory. He just has to look the part for the duration of the debate.
You can dispute what he did and make the case that it had some kind of impact but I think you're simultaneously (a) ignoring a bunch of other factors and (b) vastly overestimating how plugged in the average voter was to that drama. Hanging the election on Comey is wild.
Real polls take time. True opinion polls take at a minimum 2 weeks to conduct sufficient sampling and do analysis on and prep for release. You won't see the full effect of the debate results in polls until, at the earliest, end of next week.
And at the end of the day the only poll that matters is the one on November 5th...
“Hanging himself with his own rope” is a funny saying. Imagine someone borrowing your rope to hang themself. “Sure, Don, you can borrow my rope.” Then you go to get your rope back. “Hey, Don! You done with my… nah, dude, that’s your rope. That’s not my rope. My bad.”