It gets even better, each function of the port also needs proper support from the cable. Often cables do not support the full spec of usb to cut costs.
While the symbols in the post are often put on computers, for usb cables this is seldom done (only a few brands do).
Source: had to find a cable that supports both DP and PD to connect a portable external monitor after I lost the original cable. (1/9 cables worked)
exept when manufacturer don't give a fuck and print whatever or nothing next to the port. like always
LOL, yeah, manufacturers don't follow this at all.
The USB-C standard and particularly the USB PD (power delivery) is so complex it almost feels comical.
The PD standard document (freely available on usb.org) is over 800 pages long and features a lengthy part about the role of the cable alone which is mostly hidden from the user. Here's a short video about this issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bZ0y9G-4Pc
USB = Unintelligible Symbols of Bewilderment
I have never seen one with SS, but maybe they removed that part in Germany.
For those that don’t know
Also don't forget the dubious AliExpress devices that have all these symbols, no data lines, Vcc at 12V and ground attached to a loose M8 nut.
Most devices don't have theese symbols and basically say fuck you unless you know how to find the specs
A small correction on USB PD...
It's not just USB PD that supports power delivery: Standard USB from way back in 1.0 also supports power delivery to devices as standard, but it's only up to 100mA in USB 1.0, 500mA in USB 2.0 and 900mA in USB 3.0, all at 5V.
USB PD is a dedicated power delivery USB protocol that supports much higher currents (up to 5A) as well as dynamically configured voltages (so, not fixed as 5V anymore) though it's all negotiated so your 5V-only phones isn't going to just get burned with 20V from a USB PD charger.
Since Power = Current * Voltage USB PD can put out quite a lot of power for supporting devices (the maximum depending on what both sides support), which means much faster transmission of power via USB which for example means faster charging of chargeable devices via USB with USB PD.
Anyways, the point being that even really old USB 1.0 can charge your device (just really really slow, though you'll be hard pressed to find anything that doesn't support at least USB 2.0 which can send 5x the current of 1.0 hence charge 5x faster than it), and that standard charging speed goes up with each new Standard USB generation since each has a higher maximum current than the previous one, so for example a standard USB 3.1 charger without USB PD support can still push a nice amount of power down the line to charge devices. It's just that with USB PD things really take off (though only up to a shared maximum that both sides support) and it can push enough power to support larger devices such as full-blown monitors or even charging notebooks.
I legit have never seen the battery used at all. They often use a plug, a lightning bolt confusingly, or don't even label it at all.
That meme sucked
All they had to do was require stamped icons on the ends of the plugs in the spec, and instead we have the current cable mystery clusterfuck 🤦
Why not label the ports and cables with:
- 10Gb/s
- 2.1Amps
- 1080p at 60hz
It's future proof and doesn't need a decoder manual other than basic literacy. It can be in whatever language the fucking keyboard is. If you want to be redundant but even more clear:
- Universal Serial Bus -> (this hole right here)
- Speed: 40Gb/s
- Power: 2.4Amps
- Audio/Video: 4K at 120Hz or 8K at 30Hz
Well, except all the legacy symbols on devices older than current gen.
Why use more words when less is easier.
The superiority of german aryan ports proven once again.
(this is a joke, nazism is evil and I hate it)
I've never seen the one enclosed in a battery, but I've seen the rest.
It’s useful but it got me even more lost 😅
So many different standards my god.
Thanks for succinctly explaining what thunderbolt is
That is not what I'm suggesting. I'm not saying charging only cables shouldn't exist. I'm saying what everything does should be clearer.
Those will legally do pretty much anything depending on what cable you use anyway. (and what cable you end up using is pretty much a surprise until you've tested it.)
All thanks to USB making our lives more simple. (yay)
Ok, I suppose it is more simple in quite a few ways.
Every computer store should have a poster about this.
some additional info about USB. If your cable/connector is old, idk how old is requred, the names and standards are actually completely different now than they used to be, but they're adopted into the new standards, so you have to keep this in mind when trying to recognize this stuff.
thanks USB forum, you guys are the best :)
I can't even find a decent PCIE USB/Thunderbolt card (one that support VFIO would be nice and actually has a Linux kernel driver, so ASM and Renesas are both out..)
Now do the cables 😈
