Ah sweet!

I mean you have to buy it on your own accord, culture your own cells, and then successfully cook and eat them. As long as you aren't stealing other people's cells to eat them without their consent it seems more ethical than the current meat industry.

without causing harm to animals

• Humans are animals
• Growing me-steak and eating it causes psychic damage
• Therefore, an animal was harmed

Of course it's ethical, unless I'm seriously misunderstanding something you literally have to make the decision to buy it and then partake in it.

I guess you can use it unethically but by default intended usage it's fine

Incoming: nonconsensual meat grown from samples illicitly taken against someone's will.

To me that's more ethical than killing of billions of animals, and the latter is considered ethical. I wouldn't do that because that would feel weird, but not unethical.

Haha I've been saying for fucking years that boutique lab growing meat outlets will pop up selling exotic animal meats and celebrity human meat. We are getting close to that future

Would any of you care to taste my meat?

I bet I taste delicious!

This is ethical despite it walking the line of taboo. It hurts no one, and if the tissue sample can be extracted at home without causing damage to the donor I see no issue with it.

What if I want to grow my steak into a hollow-cylinder shape, and also, not eat it, per-se?

It's unethical because you can't safely perform muscle biopsies at home, thus it is a violation of the duty of care, and culturing stratified squamous epithelium and calling it meat(and steak no less) is lying without any benefit to others, which is a fundamental ethical violation.

Don't you get prions from canibalism

Also if this costs less than supermarket meat I could buy some beef and clone it

I would try this in a fucking heartbeat

Fuck, I've always wanted to eat human meat anyway. I'd kill for a sample like this. I don't care about morals here. I'm a vegetarian. I just want to know. If my buddy was like "ayy we're eating Dan from accounting's arm tonight" I'd be there with no questions asked. The police can sort it out.

fetal bovine serum (FBS)... is derived from the blood of calf fetuses after their pregnant mothers are slaughtered by the meat or dairy industry.

I did not know this... and after reading the wiki, I found it rather disturbing...

The first stage of the production process for FBS is the harvesting of blood from the bovine fetus after the fetus is removed from the slaughtered cow. The fetus dies from the lack of oxygen by remaining in the protective environment of the uterus for a minimum of 15–20 minutes after the cow is dead...

By what technicality this isn't cannibalism?

Yes. You consented. It's just more you.

Man-made man-steaks beyond my comprehension

"Eat my ass!"

"Don't mind if I do."

The perfect gift for RimWorld players.

What if you have cancer and don’t know it, and just accidentally happen to grow a tumour for dinner?

soylent me?

Completely ethical why would it not be?

Remember that guy on Reddit who claims he had to have his leg amputated and he somehow got to keep it, and he and his friends cooked and ate it?

That's weird, but as long as it remains their own, or consenting others, I think it's fine. The minute capitalism gets involved I think it becomes exploitative and unethical - long pork in the grocery store fundamentally should not be a thing.

Anyone who thinks this is okay can suck my lab grown dick

Also I want to hear from you, is it ethical and why?

I don't see why not. It hurts nobody, except maybe yourself. Not sure what the nutrition is on this thing.

My hunch is that, as proposed, this is the most ethical form of meat consumption because the meat is being taken and consumed with consent from the donor. (Yourself) And there's no living creature that even suffers from the process

This is fine. I probably taste good.

auto cannibalism? %100 sure there will be tv shows about who has the best taste and the texture as well as onlyfans models selling cells from different parts of their body for astronomic prices

There's bacteria that grow in the roots of legumes that are capable of capturing gaseous nitrogen. That nitrogen makes its way to the soil, where the trees can suck it up to produce protein, like sunflower seeds. I eat those and by the time I urinate and die the nitrogen has been so concentrated within me that I burn a small hole in the ground for the fungus, sun, and time to decay and heal.

If I could photosynthesize the carbs needed to bootstrap this operation I would. If I could plant a piece of myself and feed it rainwater and atmospheric nitrogen to grow a steak I would. If I could leave behind shelter I wood.

"Hey hon, get in here. I want you to try this"

So what do we feed the cells to allow them to grow?

I'm putting ten in the bathtub and naming it Steve.

Is this technically cannibalism?

This is kinda cool, but maybe make it plant-based instead?

Carnists well do anything to eat meat

Art project from 2020 - intended to provoke the conversations here for sure. Still involves some animal products in production it looks like.

I don’t think this could be feasibly upscaled to sustain a dystopia.

Looks cool. Will take a chance to try and grow my own steak, but i probably wont eat it.

I am going to say that it’s unethical for someone to eat others or themselves, lab grown or not, because the community members in a society want to 1) curtail or reduce suffering and 2) increase ways to promote better judgment and impulse controls.

1 - We treat cattle and animals for food production with such contempt and disdain and cruelty, and if we were to start eating humans (lab grown, self-eating or otherwise) we’ll treat humans the same. Delegating some humans to be eaten, lab grown (by choice or not) or otherwise, is going to create a lot of societal strife and suffering. How does self-eating contribute to suffering? See reason 2.

2 - People who consume others or themselves cannot be guaranteed to be devoid of sociopathic characteristics. Even if someone is just eating themselves, it blurs the line between food source and community member.

I think it is the same as people who smoke or cut themselves to relieve stress—yes, whatever you’re doing is your choice and seemingly only affecting you. However, the second hand smoke/scarring in the case of the self-cannibal is their poor judgment and poor impulse control. We expect society members to exercise better judgment and impulse control because the way they think impacts everyone around them.

Why does self-cannibalism seem like poor judgment? Think again of someone who cuts themselves to relieve stress. The way you treat your yourself, including your body, is a reflection of your state of mind. Only a narcissist would say that they’re in complete control of their mind, including the subconscious part, and so their self-eating will be harmless and not result in any bad behavior towards others, ever. We already know vegetarians have more empathy than meat eaters: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animal-emotions/201207/brain-scans-show-vegetarians-more-empathic-omnivores

As mentioned, we have historically always treated animal sources of nutrition with disdain, contempt and cruelty. If someone feels that it’s okay for them to eat themselves using lab grown meat, I worry what kind of psychological interplay justifies that decision for them. Do they hate themselves? Is this self-harm? What will their interactions with other people be like after doing this?

So, yes autonomy and self-actualization is an inherent right of cognitively advanced beings. But they lose that right the second it starts impacting someone else’s self-actualization.

In short, even self-cannibalism is unethical because society wants members who are not sociopaths and who won’t contribute to the suffering of other members.

Shades of Wendy meat from Rudy Rucker's "Ware" tetralogy

hummm delicious cancer meet

I mean... its definitely ethical, its just also freak behaviour 😅

I've always wanted Antiviral to be real!