An interesting video on weed usage, curious to chat about people's experience
An interesting video on weed usage, curious to chat about people's experience
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I've been a daily smoker for the last 4 years, I had to take some time off for a job and it's shocked me how my dreams have come back. I'm not planning on quitting but I'm probably going to try to stop daily usage. I'm curious how others feel about where they are with their weed usage and how it impacts them. I genuinely forgot what real powerful dreams were like and I ran a sleep study as a part of my university thesis and got to see firsthand how it impacts my REM sleep.
I vape most evenings after 5pm. I have ADHD and comorbid depression and anxiety. The strains I like to vape keep me motivated and help me unwind, enjoy my evening, get things done around the house, and stretch/do yoga, or some gentle exercises before bed.
I fall asleep easily each night after weed helps me get all that done. I dream just a little, and they're often lost the minute I stand up.
When I take a break, every few weeks or over vacations, it's harder to go to sleep initially, but my dreams are a little more vivid when I do.
My most vivid dreams occurred when I was taking Prozac, which wrecked my body in every other way, so I don't associate dream intensity or recollection with overall health anymore. I'm physically and emotionally much healthier off Prozac, vaping weed most nights, than I ever was on the stuff.
Edit: Seeing some usage discussion, I go through about 1/2 an ounce every 4-6 weeks vaping with a Volcano.
What strains do you use for that evening wind down?
I tend to prefer fuel-based strains like Sour Diesel, Chemdawg and Rocket Fuel or Jet Fuel. Whether it's a sativa or indica dominant strain seems to matter less. If it's got that funky fuel smell, it will usually treat me right.
I may be in a minority in this community, but I've found that daily use is really rough on my mind. Taking some time off and returning to weekly use (with occasional months off) benefited both my life in general and how much I enjoyed weed. The anxiety is down, and it's opened up a ton of time to pursue hobbies I find more fulfilling than TV. And when I do sit down with an edible, I really enjoy it.
I also dream now, which I suspect is a factor in everything else. Evolution wouldn't make us dream unless there was a reason for it.
I found the same thing, for me I think I got too good at the fun parts of weed and wouldn't be impacted by them. That left me with just making dumb decisions and being anxious. Not to mention just how high my tolerance got. I also found it made me too okay with doing nothing. I love having a lazy day every once in a while but I do want to have hobbies so I go out and meet people. Once I've passed this drug test and I can smoke again I'm hoping to keep it much more infrequent.
I use maybe once a week and track my sleep with a Garmin watch. On nights that I use my deep sleep is almost non-existent. On the following nights my deep sleep comes back and then some.
Can see this being the reason why many don’t experience dreams on weed and why memory suffers after prolonged use, since deep sleep is necessary for both of these.
From my sleep study I saw the same results, my REM sleep periods would only start later in the night when the weed wore off. I'm also starting to feel like my memory is suffering. There is also just the problem of tolerance, I want to land on a sustainable approach to smoking.
Daily use for 5+ years and I never ever lost my dreams.
I get a lot more recurring dreams though. Unsure if it’s related.
That's really interesting, I had a friend that said the same thing. Personally I hadn't noticed that my dreams disappeared because it had happened slowly and they were just more infrequent. Have you had to take any time off? I'm curious if you would have a similar experience to me.
Yeah I went to Cuba for a week so no weed. Aside from being slightly more grumpy the only difference was my dreams were more vivid and intense and had darker colours.
I'm an ex-daily-smoker (had the habit for the better part of 12 years) and I've certainly learned some things about how my body reacts to smoking every day and how it reacts when I quit.
Just relating my experience - I don't want to disparage anyone currently smoking, because for periods of my life it was definitely very enjoyable to smoke a bowl and play some music or video games. But... after a while, it began to get worse and worse.
For starters, it slowly reduced my appetite, eventually down to the point where I couldn't eat a meal without smoking, and food didn't bring me joy anymore like it would while sober. It almost felt like I just had to cram it down so I wouldn't starve.
I had to smoke just to feel normal. I wasn't able to sleep through the night, often waking up at around 4am feeling gross, taking a small bong rip, and heading back to bed. My digestion was all out of whack, lots of diarrhea and constipation. No dreams, of course. No motivation to do anything that was not immediately gratifying. Drinking alcohol made me feel sick, even if it was just a couple beers. I had more social anxiety, often turning down invitations to go out just so I could stay at home, smoke weed, and play video games. All in all not a good time, but I was stuck in it.
Quitting was a huge pain for me. What little appetite I did have was replaced with nausea, my anxiety went through the roof, and my sleep was awful for a while. But after a few weeks, I'm basically back to normal. Better than normal, actually. Even if some dreams can be wacky or scary, I realized I missed them! It was like I forgot who sober me even was when I was a daily smoker. I'm doing more every day, I'm back into all my hobbies and projects, and life is good again!
My theory is this: our bodies produce cannabinoids naturally, for various purposes, including regulating appetite, sleep, and anxiety (this part is actually proven.) When you go giving your body tons of it on the regular, it stops producing it as much. It throws your body's homeostasis out of whack, leading to the aforementioned issues. It can take a bit for your body to figure out how to regulate it again after you quit, but it does get there eventually.
Anyways, open to discuss any of this with y'all. I'm sure not everybody's experience is the same, but I know there's got to be people out there in the same boat I was.
Thanks for sharing. I had an easier time of it (maybe only a year of daily use), but never regretted cutting back.
It always concerned me a bit to see people glorifying daily use so much back on /r/trees. In retrospect, I don't have many fond memories of that time, and I think it made it harder to address the root mental health issues.
Yeah I was probably at about an ounce every 2 weeks at the worst. And I totally agree, weed culture makes it too easy to ignore any negative aspects of smoking it all the time.
That's really interesting, I can see how I might have gotten to a similar level. I had never smoked before university, I was always busy with sports/ school. I only started seriously smoking around COVID and I definitely got attached to it. I found it messed with my appetite and would make me anxious when I was high sometimes. I would smoke probably 4-5 bowls a day. The last 3 probably did nothing most of the time. When I was home from school I'd smoke joints more and at a more controlled rate. I found it more pleasant once I'd get used to a lower intake. Recently I've had to pass a drug test and I'm taking a month and a half break to ensure I pass. It's been nice to see that I can very easily stop cold turkey. Outside of when I'm drunk I really don't crave it.
Sounds like you've got a good handle on it, glad to hear that. I think smoking joints is probably the best way to do it, it avoids getting massive quantities into yourself like a bong can. Plus, its more of a social thing usually.
whoa! i have to watch that video… been a daily smoker for a couple of time now, but i do dreams sometimes, vivid dreams tho too, but mostly nightmares or waking up covered in sweat like
I didn't even realize how my dreams had changed. I would still have occasional dreams but now I have multiple vivid dreams per night. I used to be a lucid dreamer and I'm slowly getting back to that.
Personally, (daily user of cannabis, D8, thca, kratom, and couple drinks nightly for years) I've noticed a few things. I still have some (less than avg) memorable dreams using just cannabis or kratom. Since I started using D8 and thca I rarely have any dreams ever or at least ones I remember. If I do have a dream it usually has some kind of subconscious message and it's super wild and I actually feel I have superior dream control since.... Again personally I don't care if I'm having dreams other than the fact that I think my sleep quality is lower. Honestly sometimes I think I prefer to not have dreams because I used to have hyper realistic and borderline horror nightmares as the only types of dreams I had. Oh and since smoking D8/thca on the regular the length of my dreams is noticably shorter. Which is surprising when you realize dreams aren't typically that long any way so for me to notice this change certainly means something I would think.. I really wonder if any of these things might have some type of application for people with sleep paralysis. All that said, I wouldnt recommend D8/thca to most everyone as delta9-thc is much cleaner and for most people going to be way more ideal. The only reason I got into d8 and thca is because I'm pretty poor and it's harder to pay $10/g than 3-5/g..
Thanks for sharing, I didn't realize delta 8 was cheaper. Have you looked into medical? I was able to get a card super easily online for my super legitimate knee pain and it's wayyy cheaper.
Yeah however I'm not willing to jump into medical until firearm ownership gets treated like it does for alcoholics because it's bullshit you can carry at the bar while unable to stand and that's fine ig but smoke a joint and your the crazy one even though you don't hear about fights at dispensaries but there are always bar fights