With all this talk about sync's pricing...

That's how things should work honestly. Those that can chip in, should. A beer every so often goes a long way. It's honestly something I barely notice in my finances too. This time it goes to something I believe in instead of a twitch sub lol.

Sync dev wanting something worth for the all the work they're doing is fine imo. You can tell he put a lot of effort into the app.

The sync cult however seem to be as annoying as they were on reddit. They are like this when we discuss anything about sync's pricing even on non sync communities.

"I'm so happy I can buy sync again"

"Sync is the best"

"No other 3PA can compare to it in my experience"

This is one of the few times I feel like "nobody asked" applies.

OP: Please try and support instance admins and Lemmy devs

Sync fans in the comments: Yes, I bought Sync and love it

I'm sure that everyone who was raging at Sync over the last few days, stating that all software should be FOSS have all made significant contributions to the Lemmy devs.

FOSS is pretty bloody great, and one of the greatest things about the modern IT industry. But FOSS doesn't pay a mortgage.

To be clear: I have contributed to Lemmy, and will likely pay a lifetime fee for Sync sooner or later.

Y'all just seething bc others are enjoying things. This is just cringe. This is not a zero sum game. You can donate to lemmy devs/instance devs/fav. app devs and whatever else you like too.

And let's not pretend this is new. You could see a lot of memmy users being excited about their app too. I don't know what the hell they are talking about. But I'm glad they have an app they like that much.

Just. Let. People. Enjoy. Things.

Good bloody grief! How did a reminder to support Lemmy devs and hosts get hijacked by Sync fans? Sync is a completely different topic.

Yeah. If you got 100$ to spare you should be giving it lemmy instead of sync.

I don't subscribe as a rule these days.Subscription fatigue is a real thing but I do make one time payments to regularly used services or apps across the year. I guess it's like tipping in that respect, I do it when I feel I should.

For Sync, the subscription seemed steep for an app for a platform I'm still only starting to use and don't use anywhere near Reddit levels (by design I might add) plus the one time payment seems similarly steep. I bought the pro for Reddit about 2 years before Reddit went full ham and was ready to spend the £8 of Google credit I have on it again if it turned out I used it/lemmy more than I do.

The issue I found is that feeding that back on anything like this hit the cult wall and you just get a lot of angry posting about you being cheap or just use the ads etc. Hell, you can see the same posts even in this thread which is only tangentially related to that whole quagmire. I had hoped that lemmy would be less vitriolic and more discussion based even on these kinds of things but I guess people are just tribalistic regardless.

The people who develop lemmy get paid to do so, as stated by iirc Dessalines themselves.

I would put donating to those running instances at the highest priority, because without servers, we have nothing.

Personally, I think the app is absolutely fine without paying for the subscription. I really don't see too many ads. I get an average of one ad for every two refreshes of the feed when scrolling through, and none of them have been obtrusive. It's certainly night and day when compared to the ads in the official Reddit app.

This is my biggest problem with it. I have no issue with Sync charging. I have an issue with Sync charging and not passing anything on to the developers of Lemmy.

I'm disabled and on a fixed income. I make less than minimum wage. The only thing I have to contribute are my occasional keen thoughts, but if you need me to leave, I can. I get that a lot.

I won't be buying or using Sync, as its pricing is prohibitive and ads sometimes include malware.

Is it just me or does Sync's pricing seem... Exorbitantly high?

My instance's owner has a Patreon. I give there. I definitely recommend that others do the same.

The person that runs my home instance appears to be from Ohio, I don't think I can sanction that buffoonery. /s

I'll kick some money towards them once I get bills for the month sorted.

It's also possible to use the free version and just deal with ads. If you want lemmy to thrive, then sync is exactly the sort of thing we need (it's the only reason I'm here after the final death of RIF)

LJ reading through this thread

I'm new to lemmy. What's a home instance?

Sync is making it so I don't need to think think hard. Makes head go ouchie.

Is it true that purchases from sync for reddit don't carry over to sync for lemmy? I don't know how anyone could possibly justify a lifetime purchase if so.

There are three donation options on that page, LiberaPay, Patreon and OpenCollective. Which one take the least amount of fee from the donated money?

Done! 😁

I haven't looked too deeply into the financing (recent migrant from Reddit). But would like to find out more.

Is Lemmy / Fediverse run like the Wikimedia Foundation?

Is current financing supporting the paid work and growth of servers etc?

What is considered a fair regular donation? Should I donate to Iemmy.org and the instance I have joined - lemmy.world? I would be happy to know what others here are contributing.

Thanks!

I'm not sure what I was expecting, but it threw me off how short the donation list over $10 is and how many people donate on Patreon (obviously not the only way to donate). Thanks for the donation information!

I'll throw some money in!

What is that link and who are those people? How do I find out who runs lemmy.world and how do I donate to them?

It's like people just can't shut up about this now. Jfc.

I thought the fuss was because of the apparent tracking, not the fact that it's a paid app?

I support already on Patreon 👍

I just subbed to Sync, I love how it works and the little I can support the dev I am happy to. But yes not everyone is in the same boat.

If the sync dev would be fair and not greedy, he would give at least the 2/3 of his revenues from the app to the Lemmy devs and the instances. Otherwise, I guess instances should be able to block these apps.

I understand everyone need to earn something. And keeping max 1/3 is good.

People need to understand and in priority the people coming from Reddit that Lemmy is not reddit. Reddit earns money with ads and investors. They could inject ads through the APIs and states in the usage terms that 3rd party devs could not remove them. They didn't do it.

Lemmy is a complet other story. Lemmy rely on donations. So, when someone donates to the Lemmy devs and/or instances, the dev of a paid app is making money on this donation. Without the Lemmy devs and the instances, the paid app would not exist at all. It's not fair at all to not share the revenue of these apps.

These paid apps and their devs are at best predators and at least parasitics.

Help me here... What is the story about sync's pricing?

My question is, why are people waiting until now to say you can donate to Lemmy devs? I haven't seen it discussed at all, anywhere, until someone released an app where they're asking for optional payments

Kinda reminds me of spez not wanting third-party apps.

But also reminds me capitalism rapes like Cosby.

I'd rather give to lemmy as a whole. I'd maybe spend 2-3$ one time pay for unlimited updates and use of a sm app.

Very true

and/or the people keeping your home instance.

And if you want to do both: my instance is a commercial one, part of the suite of services that provided by Communick. I'm pledging to give 20% of any eventual profits to the teams of the projects that I host there.

The plans are really cheap, and they get even cheaper if you purchase a "group package".

With all the talk about the big instances not managing to keep up with the influx of users, I'd ask you to consider joining or spreading the word about my work and what I am proposing as alternative model for a sustainable growth of the Fediverse.

If I understand right, the lemmy devs are already paid to develop lemmy full time. I don't fully understand the arrangements or who's paying them though.

Suck it nerd.