Pro-Hamas is not pro-Palestine. People need to be careful what they a spray painting.
Just because someone says they are pro-Palestine, does not make them a good person.
That was not a peaceful protest. When you're flying jihadist flags, spray painting "hamas is coming" on shit and getting into fights with police, you are now a criminal. Any actual progressive knows better than to support terrorists like hamas or engage in violence, as that does not create progress, merely crackdown. We progressives have a responsibility to keep actual violent extremists out of our ranks, they're no different from fascists and should be treated similarly.
That said, burning the flag is protected by the first amendment, and is a valid form of protest if someone wishes. Though Harris does have a right to her opinion I suppose. The violence and vandalism was not valid protest though, and it make us all look bad. If this is how we act, and these are the values we believe in, then maybe we deserve an authoritarian like Trump.
My issue here is that there's another side that's also awful. I hope she condemns pro-israeli terrorists (and the agitators they support) just as vociferously.
Progressive movements in America have historically had violent reactions.
I've seen a couple images of it, as of now, with the world's most obvious plant chuds holding up, like, isis flags, which doesn't make any sense, as well as a flag burning and the replica liberty bell being drawn on with various graffiti, some of which was like, actual antisemitic shit. People give leftists shit for purity testing too much, but that's cause whenever you don't do that you end up with this shit, where very obvious plants will get perpetuated by the media endlessly even if you don't do anything.
I dunno how people haven't been turned onto this shit yet. You can repetitively see footage of like, at every single pro-palestinian demonstration, even the "jews for israel" ones, you'll see some brainbroken zionist in a t-shirt that says "jew" on it in badly written marker trying to stir shit so they can get blown up and then call people antisemitic. You saw this same shit with very obvious cop-phenotype hog "off-duty" cops in the BLM protests that were also trying to stir shit, or like, how it would always be some white kid nobody knew that would be the one trying to burn some random storefront or whatever. Or it would just be people freaking out over the walmart burning down, but I don't think it's controversial to think the waltons should fucking burn along with their big box stores. Nobody's burning down the Aldis, from what I've seen.
I won't deny that there are some relative extremists and people who would like to enact violence or property damage in a kind of escalation and mutual arms race in which basically everyone loses, but they are very few and far between, and what you actually end up seeing a lot of the time are going to be plants. Praxis can look like that stuff, but obviously taking your chance to do so in the middle of a random protest, where the cops can easily just start blasting fucking anyone they want and arresting whomever they want, is not the greatest opsec, you're only going to end up using your ideological allies, presumably, as cover for your own adventurism. It'd be better to do whatever shit you wanna do like that on your own so nobody else can get involved or taken down for it. Everyone knows this, it's not big news, it's why that violence specifically doesn't happen. But in most instances, if you are watching the news snippets, you are seeing the like, two city blocks worth of protests that are going to be the most extreme by far so they can scare white suburban voters into doing whatever they want.
I get you. You’re the real deal. You probably understand what’s really going on better than most on here.
She's still Biden's VP. If she were to break from the administration's stance, it could be very bad for her
Not that I actually expect her to differ from Biden much
