Ironically, since I started pirating, I've spent MORE money on movies.
TL;DR at the bottom.
I started getting into torrents about 2 years ago, at the time I started out with downloading YIFY rips and x265 RARBG encodes. I didn't care about the quality at the time, I was just happy to get movies. But I also wanted stuff like Special Features, and while Tigole and the QxR team occasionally added them for some of their movies, it felt like something was missing.
Eventually I grew dissatisfied with encodes, and wanted to watch movies in the highest quality possible. I would have downloaded BDMVs, but no one seemed to be seeding them, or in the case of less-mainstream/obscure movies, they weren't on public trackers at all. (I tried downloading REMUXes from FGT, but they always replaced the PGS subtitles with UTF text subtitles, which I didn't appreciate.) So in early 2022 I bought myself a Blu-ray optical drive, set up MakeMKV, and bought the Blu-ray of the movie I wanted to rip. After that, I bought some more BDs to rip, and I started making my own REMUXes. Some time after that, I flashed my drive with the LibreDrive firmware so I could rip my 4K UHD discs too.
So anyway, my point is that the arguments that piracy is "bad for business" and causes companies to "lose money" are full of hot air. If anything, piracy is good for them and increases sales. There have been numerous occasions where I have wanted to download a REMUX and there were no seeders, and decided it would be easier for me to buy the disc and rip it myself.
So, the main takeaways are:
Piracy isn't nearly as bad as the authorities say it is, and may actually increase sales.
Create good-quality encodes.
Seed all your torrents.
TL;DR: Started buying and ripping my own Blu-rays due to dissatisfaction with low-quality encodes and lack of seeders.
Yep.
The video entertainment industry had a great solution to piracy in Netflix and it had moved piracy out of the mainstream... Then companies got competitive and content became fractured across a multitude of platforms.
Ehhhhh, sorta'. I've spent WAY more money thanks to Steam than I would have without it, but I'm still buying everything on sale and cheaper than anyone I know with a console. I think price is still a bit part of the equation for me. Some games that refuse to ever have a decent sale are making me consider the high seas again as they stagnate on my waitlist.
Same for music for me. Only difference now, I get to choose where my money goes. Instead of some streaming company giving next to nothing to the bands I listen to and everything else going to some super popular stuff I don't enjoy.
Yeah, I've spent more money on smaller bands through Bandcamp then I ever have on streaming services, all thanks to piracy, since I realized it's much better for offline files.
I believe an eu commissioned report reflected this and has been picked up several times throughout the years. I must admit I've never gone through and read it though
Are there any good services like bandcamp, but for video? Even if it doesn't have blockbuster/popular movies I'd be interested. I spend a lot of money on bandcamp because it's easy and simple: I give them money and in return get bits that I do what I want with.
If you're looking for DRM-free digital distribution, the best I can think of is Vimeo on Demand. You pay one-time for a movie, and in return you get the option to download the movie as a MP4. There's mainly arthouse films and documentaries, but you may be able to find a few gems.
That was shown in the early days of Metallica's (fuck Metallica, btw) bullshit with Napster. The music fans were downloading music, as well as buying music, more.
Fucking Lars. Metallica just did not get it and attacked their fans. Nobody had a problem paying for the music, they just wanted to be able to download it. They didn't want a CD they wanted an MP3.
I was a huge Metallica fan. Saw them for both Ride the Lightning and Justice when they toured. Most of us got into them by pirating (ie, copying album->tape or tape->tape for/from friends). I spent more on their tickets and concert tees than I would have buying their albums. But after Lars and that Napster shit, I just figured they were dead to me. Haven't listened to them since.
Sure but I doubt that would be true today. Do people forget we had very limited bandwidth compared to today and lots of the encodes where low bitrate and sucked. Not to mention most people where downloading the mp3 and burning them to CDs back then also.
The problem is you're obsessed with movies to do such things. Just download 1080 and watch it on your tv or mobile and that's it, you watched a movie. And if you're willing to help the community, encode, seed, distribute and that's enough.
I've ripped a good number of blu-rays to network storage. If you're looking for older, less popular stuff it's the best option. And older releases are usually just a few bucks. The new stuff I torrent because I can usually find a decent rip, but for stuff I want to put in my library a rip from optical disk is the best, but not free of course. You can even do it for free, public libraries often have a good collection of older releases on optical disk.
My local wall-mart has a large number of older blockbusters on their bargain bin. Got all 3 John Wicks for $15 total, and then directly ripped them into my server
Same idea with video games. There are many game franchises that I never would have gotten into as a kid if I hadn't been able to pirate them. I usually still pirate games to try them out, and if I end up enjoying it or want features like online play, I might buy it during a Steam sale.
Command & Conquer was like that for me. I pirated Red Alert 2, but ended up buying it like six times via various collections. None of that would have happened had I not had that first pirated copy.
Anymore it's a roll of the dice whether the game is functional to a point where you would enjoy it. Most publishers don't seem to bother with demos anymore (probably because their games are half broken) so we are largely left to create our own demos.
Many others have said before people who pirate spend more on media than those who don’t.
I pay for cable tv (get off my lawn) in addition to several other streaming services.
And sometimes I still can’t get the thing I want. You think I’m going to spend even more when my half dozen existing subscriptions don’t cover this one thing? I don’t think so.
I’m a fan of a certain sport, and they didn’t have a reasonable way of making it available on demand… so I sailed the seas. But lo and behold once an app was available, I was happy to pay as I’m no longer having to wait.
Someone smarter than I said. The largest part of piracy is a delivery issue. Make thing’s available and people will pay for them.
I wouldn't be the faithful Final Fantasy patron I am today had it not been for a ROM of FF VI my old room mate put on my computer back in college. Now I own nearly ALLLLL of them (the ones available on modern platforms). I've also started investing in the Trails series for a similar reason and I don't regret it.
Avid reader here, and I sometimes browse books on pirate bay. When I find one I like I download the ebook and if I read it I also buy a print edition. Not everyone does that, of course, but in my case piracy generates sales.
This happened to me too. I download movies and shows onto my plex and watch them at my leisure. If I love a show or movie I get the Blu-ray and watch it in 4K/atmos! It’s nice being able to sample things before buying.
Similar outcome. At this point, I mostly just rent 4k online because my massive Plex library has bit-for-bit Blu-ray rips of everything I care about enough to have on hand. But I spent years building that library by ripping physical media.
I still buy and rip CDs because I love album art and want high quality. If not for the former, I'd likely go flacc or lossless and buy online.
I started pirating around 2000. Early days of bittorrent, before that Napster and others. Maybe I'm out of touch and/or old. But YT premium/music has be very convenient and cost effective for me. As far as movies, paying for a couple of streaming services is way easier than delving through scummy torrent sites waiting for movies to download.
I'm fairly tech savvy but I've been off the high seas for awhile. If anyone knows a way to get movies/music with the same ease of use as the paid stuff I'd love to know about it.
Fair. I use YouTube almost exclusively on PC and my phone, and setting up an ad-free environment on both was fairly easy for me. But if I were to switch to a TV, I just might have bought yt premium. It's not that expensive, after all.
Also, I still pay for netflix. It just has the right amount of convenience that I am ok with to pay money for.
Using the *arrs is pretty convenient if you know how to use docker (or even if you dont) and then you can connect them to Plex or jellyfin to view, it won't be instant like Netflix and co but at least its free/cheaper (cost of VPN or seedbox). You can even setup overseerr or jellyseerr to simplify the movie/show requests.
Bflix.gg or some other similar site, in a browser with ublock. That's what I do for 90% of what my girlfriend and i watch, then we torrent some things that were really excited about, or like a season at a time of a tv show.
As far as movies, paying for a couple of streaming services is way easier than delving through scummy torrent sites waiting for movies to download.
That's all well and good until you basically start google searching whatever you want to watch to see which subscription it's on. Super Mario Movie? Not HBO or Netflix, it's on Peacock. Snowpiercer (show)? Not streaming on any service anymore.
At a certain point having it available is more convenient than paying 5 different subscriptions to see which has what.
Also it can be very easy to automate this so you don't even have to search anymore. You just put in the name and it does it for ya!
@TheImpressiveX if you don't have money to spend but the movie is older, one can also hit up charity stores. I find good Blu ray and dvds for a few dollars at the local st Vincent DePaul stores all the time. It takes patience but it pays off. I've got some great full seasons of TV shows too for like $5
Just check disk for damage before buying and that the right disk is in the right box.