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The Profound Loneliness of Being Collapse Aware

medium.com The Profound Loneliness of Being Collapse Aware

Knowing that civilization is going to collapse can be a profoundly lonely experience. Let’s find one other and enjoy the time we have left.

The Profound Loneliness of Being Collapse Aware

About the author's struggle to find someone among his friends to speak to about collapse. He says, "Most of all, I want someone to hug me and say, “I know. I’m scared, too.” Lots of good links in there for further reading.

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  • Awareness of dire likelihoods and absolute realities is terrifying and depressing. My first recommendation for anyone facing such is to seek professional help - I don't mean this as derogatory in any way but from a place filled with love. This might involve medication for some. That's ok. Some of our brains are not great at handling stresses caused by modern human civilization, whether that's due to a heightened fight-or-flight response, tendency towards depression, or a number of other conditions.

    My second is to find a way to compartmentalize based upon one's personal ability to impact these externalities or mitigate their effects.

    Third, and probably most important, be careful with psychoactive substance use. Alcohol, cannabis, psychedelics, and others can dull things or provide a brief escape but nothing is free and you will pay for it; if you drink, drink to be merry, not to escape despair and pain.

    The goal here being to be able to function as resiliently as possible in both day to day and high-stress situations. We're only human (except for the robots) so, we have a finite amount that we are capable of dealing with physically or emotionally. Being able to keep yourself going and not be stuck in an internal pit of despair (been there, it's not fun) is the bare minimum.

    Once you're able to achieve that consistently, see about what ways you can cultivate positivity around you. Anything from being kind to people that you encounter or growing vegetables to taking part in or leading a volunteer organization. Just take it one step at a time and be kind and understanding with yourself as we all have limits to what we can do, as much as we might wish otherwise.

    Like grief, this awareness seldom goes away but may be made more manageable. It's ok to not be ok sometimes but, it's important to not get trapped there.

  • I wasn't aware of the term "Collapse Aware" until today and I don't understand. Yes, I know right now we are not on track to meet climate targets, which means there is an increasing possibility that in the next 100 years we will see an increase in severe weather events and especially coastal flooding. Yet the probability is the practical people, rather they accept the root cause right away or not, will develop solutions to many of these problems. Electric vehicles will continue to improve, and someone will solve the battery waste problem. We will develop better anti-flooding technology. And we are already seeing a trend where younger people are more likely to accept climate realities, and acceptance is the first key to change.

    I think it is likely that in the next 100 years there will be substantial loss of life (especially in coastal regions) and probably another great depression and another war, but these sort of events are fairly common throughout history. However; the world will adopt to the new challenges and eventually solve them. Yes, the future will look different, but looking at the past it shouldn't be a surprise. Industrialization was just a stage in our journey and its end doesn't necessarily mean a societal collapse.

    • Honestly you can feel like a Casandra even if you don't think it's leading to complete collapse. Westerners like to imagine they live in a bubble where everything will always be taken care of, and that bad things only happen in other places.

    • I think you have a view of time and history that is quite rare. You seem to be using centuries as your unit of measure where very few people can get to even decades as the unit of measure. On your time scale, or larger ones up to and including evolutionary or geological time scales, it's relatively easy to conclude that "in the fullness of time" will "solve" the problem.

      On ordinary time scales, where people look at the next 100 years at most, disaster is looming. That loss of life, major economic depression, and those wars you seem to shrug off as "business as usual" is exactly what is fueling their anxiety. Many of those people would say that your "fullness of time" view is actually a big part of the problem because it looks like complacency and can in fact foster complacency.

      On top of that, few people do anything other than linear extrapolation based on recent data. So where you see little blips on a trend line, they see a continuation to infinity of whatever seems to be happening now.

      And, of course, there are even people like me, who think that it takes coordinated effort at all scales from individual behaviour to the creation and honouring of global treaties to solve the problem. We already have plenty of those practical people you speak of and we now know that they are all but useless unless we can all agree join them. And we haven't and aren't. In that view the tipping point was c. 1980 and we're now so far over the cliff that the creation of the right kind of society now looks like a pipe dream. Which means that only a "black swan" event or technology can save the day. Hardly the stuff of optimism.

      • Thanks for the explanation, this does make total sense. If I look at it from a short term lens then yeah I can see where people are having trouble accepting that the next 50 years will look nothing like the prior 50. I also agree not enough people are trying to solve the problems and climate deniers are a huge part of the problem. Is there a way I can use my perspective to contribute to solving the problems without giving in to fatalism?

    • Have you read the pinned post at the top of this community, The Busy Worker’s Handbook to the Apocalypse? It's a long read, and pretty far outside the Overton window for normal conversation, so if you aren't a doomer already it might be hard to swallow. But the case it makes is pretty solid. Here is a highlight from it "we’ve put over a trillion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere that we cannot remove, along with other GHGs it will warm the globe by at least 4°C by 2100 (even if all emissions stopped today), agricultural failure is imminent within a decade or so." He means agricultural failure on a global scale. And with that comes the collapse of our rather brittle industrial civilization, not in 100 years, but probably in the next 10 or 20.

      The best we have now for removing CO2 from the air is a plant in Iceland. It can sequester about 4,000 tons per year. Occidental is still building a plant in Texas they say will remove 500,000 tons per year and could scale up to twice that. But even scaled up we would need about 38,000 of those plants just to keep up with the CO2 we release in a year, never mind catching up with the over 2 trillion tons we already have released (over half of which was absorbed by the oceans). We can't stop what's coming.

      It's not just the end of industrial civilization and adapting to new challenges. It's the end of the stable climate we need to grow food for ourselves at scale. And without that society as we know it doesn't exist.

      • I have, and I've also skimmed much of AR6. It seems to me like even in the worst case scenario human extinction is unlikely and most climate scientists are not doomers? I'm not saying we should do nothing, I'm saying I believe there is still hope to avoid human extinction and even for humanity to eventually recover and find a different, more renewable path (granted it might be after a century or two of returning to tribalism). I do think the future will necessarily involve an abandonment of our modern infrastructure and extreme de-urbanization, and that the sooner we do it the more likely Florida won't be underwater. I also think as terrible as it will be, food shortages and the trend we're already seeing of decreasing birth rates, combined with the near-term depletion of fossil fuels, will force this change rather humanity wants it or not.

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