Reminder that Giorgia Meloni published anime art of herself to Twitter

I'm pretty sure the anime girl is meant to be her

Undergroundoverground hates that too

She refers to her drawing in manga style in 3rd person. Doing that in 1st person would be wild.

As I'm from Germany, our constitution was elaborated by a constituent assembly constisting in the majority of conservatives. It granted and grants a lot of civil rights which are questioned by modern day conservatives, such as the right for asylum or secrecy of mail and telephone. Starting from our first government, led by the conservative party CDU, the politics was also constantly pro-European towards integration. Also our first ministry for environment issues was established by a conservative government in 1986.

This backward-looking stupidity is a phenomenon of the last 30 years. E.g. Franz Josef Strauß, the most conservative politician I can think of, was pro technical innovation. As of today, the state of Bavaria still benefits from decisions made under his government. He would rotate in his grave if he knew how his party has become.

It would be silly to pretend the word "conservative" isn't widely understood to mean backwards-looking nationalists.

I agree that it uses to be the norm now, however it was not always like this but the meaning has changed. The horse has left the barn. (Das Kind ist in den Brunnen gefallen)

But it's equally silly to call fascists conservative when we have a much better word for them.

That's my point.

This argument is pretty dumb. If we follow this logic then American liberals are Marxist because American Marxists tend to support the DNC more often than not... But that's obviously not true, and American liberals don't support such an evil ideology.

If we follow the logic in a different route and assume that 9 racists are sitting on a table with a civil rights activist, they're all civil rights activists... But that doesn't sound right, does it?

Let's try another attempt, if 10 world leaders are in a conference somewhere. Of those leaders, 9 are liberals from democratic countries and one is a dictator, does that make all 10 of them dictators? Of course not.

The issue with this type of argument is that it's based on guilt by association, not even that actually, it's more of guilt by proximity. This is a logical fallacy for all the reasons stated in this article:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

Let's not bring back guilt by association and doom ourselves back to the dark ages due to virtue signaling and ignorance. People should be looked as individuals and judged for their own beliefs.

So if there are 9 reformists and 1 fascist sitting around a table, would there be 10 fascists sitting around that table?

conservatives oppose social progress and want to preserve the status quo, but are happy to fight for that within democratic bounds, more or less. Fascists want to subvert democracy and install a completely new status quo

Fascism is more of an approach than a specific ideology. Its only core value is Strength Through Unity - but to achieve that it needs some populist values to unite the people over - which is how you get different flavors of fascism. The original Fascist Party was using nationalism. Racism is also a popular choice (fascism + racism = Nazism), and it seems like rightist values are more prune to it - but leftist values are not safe either, like we have seen in the USSR which based its fascism around socialism.

Conservatism can be a base for fascism, but like all these other values - it doesn't have to be fascist. The rule is simple:

• If you want The Gays(tm) to just stop - that's regular conservatism.
• If you want a strong leader to "stop" The Gays(tm) - that's fascist conservatism.