Asklemmy @lemmy.ml zachimusprime44 @lemmy.world 5mo ago

What YouTubers did you used to watch back then but not anymore?

And why did you stop watching them?

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CGPGrey. I even listened to his podcasts.

For someone who tried to sell productivity tools at one point, he was very unproductive.

Also, given what happened with Standard and Nebula, I got to say I side with Nebula over him.
- Yeah, it's weird, CGPGrey videos used to be the most must-watch of all YouTube for me and I subscribed to his Patreon at one point. I listened to Hello Internet loyally and I was even unhurt about how it ended. I still think he's an interesting guy and would follow his stuff again but he doesn't seem to be doing anything of interest to me any more.
  
  What happened with Standard/Nebula?
  
  I responded to someone else, but there is a reason why Grey isn't a part of Nebula.
  
  his videos started getting sparse/boring
- I didn't like his take, "solving" traffic nescitates the use of self-driving cars. Can't have traffic without cars, it's as simple as that. We need public transport, not more shit to spend our increasingly scarce money on.
- What happened? I've never heard of it
  
  Him and Kurzgesagt were helping to build an organization for YouTubers with the current CEO. The first talent signed on was Wendover and Real Engineering.
  
  Grey and Kurzgesagt were rather inactive partners when they should have been more active and were trying to build a much more exploitative company instead of what Nebula became. It is vague on how they left, but they left and the company became better for it.
  
  Sorry, do you mean the current CEO of Nebula or of YouTube?
  
  Nebula
  
  So Nebula got rid of him (which would seem to coincide with his drop in output)?, Kurzgesagt seems to be doing just fine in comparison.
- I still watch his main videos (when they actually happen...), but with a much higher degree of scepticism than I used to. And I stopped listening to his podcast (singular...).
  
  My disillusionment with him started with a few issues with his videos. The blatantly ridiculous "royal family is good actually" video. The less obvious but no less egregious touting of Guns, Germs, and Steel. The AI techbroism of his automation video. Then he just killed off the podcast with no explanation, leaving his cohost Brady to put out a note saying "yeah we're just on hiatus for now". Over 4 years ago that was. There was the fact that he sided very vocally with Kurzgesagt in the CoffeeBreak drama, despite CB Kurzgesagt obviously being in the wrong at every step of the way.
  
  Then the final straw where I was no longer willing to say I was a fan of his was when he did a video about some missile silo in America, in which he used the name of a submarine-based missile instead of a land-based missile at some point. Shortly afterwards he put out a massive mea culpa video saying it was a "catastrophic" error that he could not live with himself for, and that he holds himself to too high a standard to let that stand. All while still not acknowledging the problems with those earlier videos. So one nitpicky detail gets a massive hullabaloo and a retraction, but fundamental flaws in the underlying thesis of the video gets nothing? Give me a break.
  
  I only ever saw that Royal Family video of his, and it was enough for me never to seek out any more.
  
  Have you seen this response video to Grey's Royal Family one?
  
  I haven't, but I will definitely watch that, thanks! 👍
  
  i love Shaun's videos, but this is one of my favorites. the way he "negotiates" with the royal family is just chef's kiss.
- I found his video on FPTP Binary political systems video to be logically flawed and I think it ultimately caused more harm than good. It's irritating to see people reference it in political discussions today. That eventually convinced me to stop giving him views.

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