To all you outside of the US...

The conspiracy theorists all say Joe is supposed to step down and Gavin Newsom somehow is added to the ticket which then will win. These conspiracy theorists also say that candidates are selected in advance by the powers that be and it’s all pagentry to deceive the gullible masses. Was this debate really an unepected plot twist, or was it planned?

I'm in the backyard of your family's lot, remember?

America needs some perspective. You complain that your only choices are a doddering fool or a toxic narcissist who wants to actively destroy the nation.

Here in Canada we look at our options and think "America is so much better, I wish we had an option to vote for a doddering fool. All we have are narcissists"

No joke I wish we had a leader as good as Biden. The bar is so low that the devil is doing the limbo with it down in Hell.

No chance, I usually don't care about American politics but I'm not gonna miss the chance to watch 2 geriatric fucks attempt to debate one another.

It was so much worse than I envisioned it to be though. Like one guy seemed to make up literally everything with insane claims that were delivered with confidence only rivaled by how stupid they were and the other sounded like his brain turned to soup if he spoke for more than 5 seconds and when not speaking he looked like a frog seeing a very tasty fly on the wall.

I really hope Europe can get our collective shit together and supply Ukraine once the US shits the bed there.

Your family is in our neighbourhood and in this domestic dispute I'm just wondering if I need to call the police or the abundance.

British politics are funnier anyway.

Unfortunately, when America farts we're all forced to smell it. America wants Europeans to stay out of American business, buts that's rather difficult to do when that country demands to be the center of attention.

It's not that us outsiders like to watch your elections closely. But we need to since they're gonna have a big impact on the world we live in, whether we like to admit it or not.

yeah but your family seems to make your problems our problems so we wanna know just how fucked we are.

I’ll just leave this here… :’-)

As a french person we have bigger fishes to fry lmao 😂 (I might live in a fascist state soon™)

I will keep repeating this, Biden will be the reason Trump gets reelected. If he loves his country he needs to leave right fucking now. Democrats like him and Clinton are addicted to power. Bernie Sanders could have beaten Trump in both election but the democrats circles of power made sure to get the candidate they wanted. Old fool.

Yeah no. Your choice has global impact. Sadly enough.

The crazy thing is everything up to this point was so much better. They'd show biden waiving at "nobody" and then they'd zoom out and there's someone standing there. Or he'd say "president of Mexico" when he meant to say "president of Egypt". But then last night was like nonstop fail. It's the perfect nightmare scenario because now everyone can say "You shoulda seen it sooner!" but really, we couldn't.

We're so fucked it's absolutely insane.

I thought Trump had a chance before, but now... My god Biden embarrassed the shit out of himself... Fuck the goddamn DNC for condemning us by REFUSING to have primaries... Yeah it's the tradition because usually the incumbent has a chance, but 90472828 year old Biden? Ffs...

Yes Trump is old too but it was plain as day how much more lucid trump is than biden...

Will this ever not be appropriate?

As a foreigner I sinned for I disobeyed the advices and watched it…

I couldn’t believe it was so bad… once I saw it I couldn’t believe I was watching that.

As a French tho, do watch the debate between Gabriel Attal, Merdella and Manuel Bombard. See how Bompard (the left wing candidate) politely wipes the floor with both shitbags.

Its ... horrible how you treat your elderly in closed wards.

I shall avert my gaze.
Didn't mean to pry, it was just too loud to not notice it.

I'd rather look at our ... increasingly hard-right EU politics ... wait, that can't be right, wtf.

Well I suppose the answer I'd give is that because of how right-wing the US is compared to much of the Western world, it becomes a patient zero for whatever the far-right is cooking up - which inevitably influences far-right groups in other Western countries

In german media there is so much content about america even I sometimes get confused whoch country I actually live in.

A dum question: if both candidates are unable to function, then what happens? (Trump for his crimes, Biden for getting dementia...)

Meanwhile in Finland: the Finnish version of "build the wall":

Parliament's Administrative Committee will not resume its discussion of the Refoulement Act until after the weekend. The committee is still so far behind schedule that it could not complete its work today. The debate on the bill continued during the committee meeting, which started at 5 p.m. but ended quickly. Peltokangas says there was no drama at the meeting. https://yle.fi/uutiset/lyhyesti/74-20097017

The bill needs 5/6 parliamentary approval and politicians are already sweating over it because it touches too many international treaties + constitution. Debate is mostly: is it ready yet? is it ready yet? is it ready yet? (While the committees checking the bill are getting more uneasy by the bill's content...)

I would love not knowing about any debate but lemmy is like: Nope you'll read American "news" if you want to or not.

So next time keep your national humiliation fetish private please

This will be up there with 9/11 for worst things to happen to the country

This is comparable to a loud family feud carried out on the streets with yelling and throwing stuff at one another and then yelling at the shocked onlookers to move away.

Nope, you can't stand there for generations going "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!" Then get shitty when we do, we want to watch you drive that burning bus into the the ocean.

At this point the only thing I care about are hordes of m1 abramses if putin crosses the border. I don’t have any other expectations or hopes.

Trump was somewhat ironically right about paying for it. Because if that’s the only thing that America can offer to the world then better name a price for your single trick.

Yeah, you true. Get out the popcorn and watch USA go down either with a 3yo minded constant liar or a 80+yo laggard. And learn mandarin.

Too late, I watched it all. It would have been funny if it hadn't been so sad.

How is this fascist right wing shit show not a global debacle? Putin, Netenyahu, Bolsanaro, Trump, Modi... Italy & Germany both rolling right. North Korea (of course) jumping on the Russian bandwagon and Xinny the Pooh.

Does Britain's finally dumping the Tories (after a decade & a half+) make them one of the few to break left at this time on the global stage? {Something about broken clocks being right from time to time.}

It was just…. ugh. 😞

Biden was horrible, he is old, he should retire. (Saying this as an outsider) I have not much knowledge of US politics, just saw debate because it was viral

As part of the CUSMA trade agreement, I think us Canadians and Mexicans are allotted one sigh of disappointment...

Como parte del acuerdo comercial T-MEC, creo que a los canadienses y los mexicanos se nos permite un solo suspiro de decepción...

I'm right at the border (Windsor) and I don't want to live that close to Gilead (which will happen if Trump wins).

Yea, sorry, no. You Americans cannot be trusted with something so important.

I'd rather drink bleach than watch this shitshow.

But think of all the popcorn we are able to consume watching you shitshow. This is way more entertaining than the usual movies, series, and shows that you produce!

Piss the fuck off you yanks

What is the over under on the return of Hilldog?

I find it almost impossible to believe they will continue running Biden, but then again I did not expect them to let him run again from the start.

To all you inside the US: you might want to look up how assault rifles' can be modified to be automatic.

I have a feeling that if Trump wins, someone will do the nazi salute thing again, but maybe insert "hail god!" somewhere into it, and this time it'll be done by someone way more mainstream...