Vegan hotdogs // Veggie "Completo Italiano"

The abomination has mustard inside.

I always make two hotdogs: one with mustard pepper and chopped onions 😌, another with ketchup and fun things 😝, just so my inner child gets something to enjoy.

Yes, avocado and garlic.

If you haven't and live in the US, try the veggies (could be vegan) hotdogs in IKEA. I love them. They're not the "hot dog + ketchup" kind, but a whole other thing.

I'm not a vegetarian but hot dog meat is extra questionable, so it's been fulfilling my hotdog needs.

the point isn't to fool people into thinking it's meat the point is to fill the same role as meat in a dish in terms of texture, protein, etc

it's never the options that try to replace a burger

I generally agree with you, but I actually disagree on this specific example. It's not fake meat burgers that I think are good, though, it's black bean burgers. They're just their own thing and they're awesome.

Vegan sausages and hotdogs are like the only plant based alternatives that taste like the real thing because 90% of the flavor is just the seasonings you use anyway. Use the same seasonings, find the right texture (mushrooms and breading work well), and you've got a good plant-based sausage or hotdog.

I'm not even vegan, btw!

Eh, since going vegetarian in the past year or so, I've found that a lot of the meat substitutes actually are pretty good, depending on how you use them. It's not usually so perfect that one cannot truly tell, sure, unless it's a dish where the meat flavor is heavily affected by spices and similar like with chili, but I've definitely found types of substitute bacon, or burgers, or ground meat that taste quite good. Though in my experience it's usually been the cheaper or simpler ones, like black bean burgers or tempeh bacon, that taste best. Not the same, but similar enough to be tasty in broadly similar ways.

I know you're going to be downvoted, but you really underestimate how good hot dogs are at a barbecue.

Serving people salads at a grill outing is a way to lose friends, giving them vegan hot dogs without telling them is a way for them to consider eating less meat. C:

It tastes good tho.

I like it when the food tastes good.

A vegan sausage can very much be its own thing, both tofu and seitan have their own distinct flavour profile. While there certainly are fake meat sausages, you cannot just assume it is one because of its shape, the same way a meat sausage isn't just a fake cucumber.

Sorry but I absolutely hate this take. I stopped eating meat about 15 years ago, but I grew up on meat-based dishes, and I occasionally like to eat stuff from my childhood, just without the meat. It literally doesn't affect you at all, but you still find the need to tell me that I'm wrong for eating what I enjoy.

OK dad

Stop trying to mimic meat products

I don't hate them, but I've been saying this for years; maybe because I grew up mostly vegetarian, so I find that there are so many interesting flavours other than meat. Like one local pub here had this great lentil based burger that they stopped making (in-house I'll add) as soon as Impossible meat came bursting on to the stage.

Now, my partner who was raised eating meat meals all the time loves these fake meats (I like them fine, I mean they are good, compared to what was around 90s definitely!). And I've been to the pub with a gaggle of friends and most of the people will get the impossible burger now, which was absolutely not the case before.

So as a gateway for meat eaters to try skipping like one meal of meat and realising they're fine, I'd say they're a smashing success.

Point A: never, ever whine about votes. It's lame as fuck. You take the downs and the ups and whining about the downs, or crowing about the ups is just bullshit.

PointB: I agree with the basics of what you said, but you miss a huge factor. Read on if interested.

I agree wholeheartedly that any commer product throwing vegan in front of a word for another food is bullshit. I even agree that the path to good vegan foods is abandoning the idea that meat needs replacing when there's entire cuisines that offer amazing food built around non meat, non animal sources.

It is also important to note that not only am I not vegan, I troll vegans occasionally by calling them religious zealots (because the ones that you run into are lol. The nice ones just live their lives and don't bother anyone.)

However, unless a person is raised without exposure to meat based foods, the truth is that meat is yummy, and a lot of foods that we take for granted and love are either meat based, or contain animal products.

This means that new vegans are trying to figure out how to change their entire life, and need help getting there. And, even as they learn more about plant based diets, they'll be having people they love that still eat meat, and substitutes become a form of good manners. Having substitutes isn't a bad thing. Again, I make fun of the jerk vegans, but being able to choose what kind of ingredients go into what I'm eating is a huge plus.

But how is anyone supposed to run searches for recipes without the word vegan being involved? "Non animal product sausages" is going to bring back wildly different hits than "vegan hotdogs".

The vegans I know (and cook vegan food for) did eventually transition away from a reliance on "replacement" dishes. But it's a process and it's one that means they'll miss some of their old favorites unless they do make these kind of things.

Point C: dude, don't rub your pet peeves on other people. It's rude.

I have a suspicion that we might see some interesting hybridization of the plant based and lab grown meats at some point. Tissue culture is expensive, and while Im sure the price can be reduced, Im doubtful that it will get cheaper than plant protein is. However, it can potentially taste more like real meat than plants, seeing as, well, it is real meat, just assembled differently. Potentially then, one can probably mix in some percentage of plant protein (or possibly mycoprotein as well) in with the meat in ground meat type products like burgers, without the flavor changing too noticeably, and get something mostly the same with a lower cost.

Are we really going to have this discussion now? In front of the kid?

Counterpoint: It's a salad.

No. These are mostly made out of yellow peas and beetroot.

Hi, I like the discussion this "hotdog" generated. Let's just call it something else to avoid getting people confused.

Actually really easy: Just get your favorite hotdog bread. The sweeter the better. Then add some mustard and get your "something else" get cozy on it (you could make your own but getting the standard one from the store is good enough). Add your avocado pasta with a little of garlic and sea salt. On top of that, get your peeled tomatoes chop in tiny pieces with a bit of coriander and make the whole thing every tastier with a bit of ketchup and vegan mayonn@ise.

This is actually a recipe from Chile.

P.s. if you invite them to some friends just tell them that these are boiled carrots so they don't feel disappointed ;)

Hi, that is completely right also the thing with about garlic!

In fact, the Chileans put the avocado in top of the tomatoes and not the other way around as I did.

Sometimes you just want something that tastes like a hotdog but didn't come from an animal.

It's vegan too!

Generally you just give it a couple of minutes on each side in a pan or grill. You just want to get some nice colour and crispiness on the outside, nothing more than that. That said, the cheese is kinda rubbery by nature, and cooking generally will not change this other than adding some crispiness to the outside. It does always squeak a little when you eat it. It shouldn't be unpleasantly so, but of course where exactly that line is drawn is always a subjective matter