Breaking: Trump Verdict Livethread
Breaking: Trump Verdict Livethread
Jury HAS reached a verdict. 11 hours, 43 minutes.
Developing.
Analysis is saying the jury using the word "verdict" indicates this is not a hung jury.
Jury has asked for more time to fill out paperwork, which makes sense, 34 counts x 12 jurors, 408 line items?
Judge has now called for the jury.
Detail on each count here, 3 basic categories:
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts
Trump was charged with falsifying business records in the first degree.
Invoices for legal services
Guilty on 11 of 11 charges
Checks paid for legal services
Guilty on 11 of 11 charges
Ledger entries for legal expenses
Guilty on 12 of 12 charges
No bail, sentencing on July 11th, 4 days before the Republican convention.
Defense has until 6/13 to file motions, prosecution has until 6/27 to respond.
Trump is responding predictably. Attacking the judge and the whole process.
Jury HAS reached a verdict. 11 hours, 43 minutes.
Developing.
Analysis is saying the jury using the word "verdict" indicates this is not a hung jury.
Jury has asked for more time to fill out paperwork, which makes sense, 34 counts x 12 jurors, 408 line items?
Judge has now called for the jury.
Detail on each count here, 3 basic categories:
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts
Trump was charged with falsifying business records in the first degree.
Invoices for legal services
Guilty on 11 of 11 charges
Checks paid for legal services
Guilty on 11 of 11 charges
Ledger entries for legal expenses
Guilty on 12 of 12 charges
No bail, sentencing on July 11th, 4 days before the Republican convention.
Defense has until 6/13 to file motions, prosecution has until 6/27 to respond.
Trump is responding predictably. Attacking the judge and the whole process.
If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:
Updated 05/30/2024
New York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest
Trial
Conviction <- You Are Here Guilty, all 34 counts.
Sentencing - July 11, 2024
Washington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - The trial, originally scheduled for March 4th, has been placed on hold pending the Supreme Court ruling on Presidential Immunity. They are due to hear those arguments on April 25th.
Conviction
Sentencing
Florida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - Postponed Indefinitely
Conviction
Sentencing
Georgia
10 state felonies
Election Interference
As of 3/13/24 - Judge McAfee cleared 6 charges, 3 against Trump, saying they were too generic to be enforced.
As of 3/15/24 - The case may proceed, but either Fulton County DA, Fani Willis and her office or Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade must remove themselves due to the appearance of impropriety.
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
All 19 defendants have surrendered.
Trial - A trial date of Aug. 5, 2024 has been requested, not approved yet.
Three defendants, Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, and bail bondsman Scott Hall, have all pled guilty and have agreed to testify in other cases.
Conviction
Sentencing
Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.
The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one. He was found liable in that case for $83.3 million.
There had been multiple cases in multiple states to remove Trump from the ballot, citing ineligibility under the 14th amendment.
The Supreme Court ruled on March 4th that states do not have the ability to determine eligibility in Federal elections.
Verdict: Trump is guilty on all 34 counts
Timeline/updates: Judge Merchan announced that he received a note saying the jury has a verdict (4:20 PM EDT)
Merchan asked for 30 minutes for jury to complete paperwork (4:30 PM)
edt: Merchan announced that the jury asked for 30 minutes. Unclear if that was from 4:20 or when he announced it closer 4:30/4:40ishManhattan DA Bragg and the judge's clerk have entered the courtroom. Bragg, appropriately, sits behind the attorneys from his office who tried the case (4:55 PM)
Merchan has returned to the courtroom (5:00 PM) NYT clarified that the jury requested 30 minutes at 4:20. They are about to enter the courtroom. Merchan asked if both sides are ready; both sides responded affirmatively.
Jury is returning (5:05 PM)
Verdict: GUILTY on all counts
They initially read the counts 1 by 1 and then were asked if all counts were guilty counts and they replied "Yes". Trump was slack and motionless the whole time (5:10 PM)
The officer has asked if either party wants a jury poll. The defense has said they do. (5:14 PM)
Todd Blanche, defense attorney, makes a motion for the verdict to be tossed because of Cohen's testimony. Motion denied. the lawyers approached the bench. (5:16 PM)
Blanche asks for a mid-July sentencing hearing (5:17 PM)
Sentencing set for July 11th, 10am, four days before the RNC where Trump will be nominated as his party's candidate (5:18 PM)
The judge dismissed the parties after asking about Trump's bail. He announced that he will be released on his own recognizance. Trump leaves, described as red in the face, after shaking Eric's hand.
Outside the courtroom" “This was a disgrace,” Trump says. “This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt.” (5:21 PM)
Other comments from NYT: Trump is significantly less animated than he has been as he rattles off the familiar lines that have characterized his remarks in the hallway for much of the trial. He seems more sober.
Trump spoke for less than three minutes in total. He did not answer a shouted question by a reporter who asked why Americans should vote for a convicted felon.Other notes:
Eric appears to be the only other Trump present.
Trump was calm, descibred as "slack" during the reading of the verdicts. During jury polling, he looked at the jurors, then looked back in front of him, towards the judge.Sources: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/30/nyregion/trump-trial-verdict and https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-30-24/index.html
“This was a disgrace. This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt. It's a rigged trial, a disgrace. They wouldn't give us a venue change. We were at 5% or 6% in this district, in this area. This was a rigged, disgraceful trial.”
I hope the judge takes his complete lack of contrition into account when sentencing. If Cohen did time, Trump should do time.
GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS!
ABSOLUTE CONSENSUS FROM JURY!!!
New York does not fuck around.
E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump - GUILTY
The People of the State of New York and Attorney General Letitia James v. Donald J. Trump - GUILTY
The People of the State of New York and District Attorney Alvin Bragg v. Donald J. Trump - GUILTY
Three up, three down.
Now get the fuck outta here.
I'm currently watching the Trump presser the day after, and he's straight up violating his gag order, spending awhile talking about Cohen, basically saying "I can't talk about him, but his name rhymes with Mohen, they call him a fixer, and ..." The whole thing is nuts but just thought that was a bit special.
All 34 counts. Guilty.
This is a psychic blumpkin. I am metaphysically shitting and orgasming at the same time. I feel so cleansed.
I know a lot of us are cynical and don't have high expectations for sentencing, but...
Right now, Trump's feeling pretty shitty. He has no idea how the sentencing will go. No guarantees he won't be forced to suffer. This is consume him for weeks at the least.
When he goes to sleep tonight, all he'll be thinking about is 'I could go to prison'.
Come on "federal 'pound me in the ass' prison!"
Let justice be served!
Meidas touch live stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkRFl-zQbK4
Meidas touch is a YT channel composed mostly of lawyers who take a particularly 'legal' take on the news and days events. They have MIchael Cohen as a contributor. They have former prosecutors from the NY Attorney Generals office as contributers.
These are the guys to be watching for this.
What’s the over-under on him fleeing to Russia or Saudi Arabia and living out his days in exile?
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY!!!!
GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS!!! FUCK YOU DJT!!!
The Republicans lining up to cry false tears and lick convicted felon Trump's felonious taint are even more disgusting than usual.
Commenting for posterity. I hate you chump. I hope you're humiliated, you cowardly moron.
Aw this is great. I hope his burger grease laden heart explodes in his chest from the stress.
Would be a glorious day to see this bastard behind bars
Ah this feels cathartic
FAILED FORMER FELONIOUS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Jurors are in the room. AaaAAAAAaaaaAAAAaaagh!
i just came. sorry.
Sentencing on July 11
LOCK HIM UP
Y'know, honestly? Trump? This IS rather impressive. Good job. Collecting those titles like some of us collected rocks.
Sentencing is set for July 11.
Free coverage:
If he gets probation, how would that work? Normally you have to notify someone when you leave the state. That would be a full-time job for someone campaigning.
I'm gonna stick my dick in the mashed potatoes!
:')
Here's something to think about... The Secret Service has stated that for now, their protective mission is unchanged. They are "authorized" to protect former presidents unless they decline that protection.
But can that authorization ultimately be revoked? Or can they perhaps petition President Biden to cease protective operations if Trump ends up sentenced to some kind of custody which would result in rendering that protection impractical?
Enough time to prep the popcorn.
Tef-FELON-don!
Jesus, the anticipation is fucking brutal...
I want to see him American History X go in a shit-heel and come out a better person. Doesn't seem likely, but here we are.
Incoming appeal and injuction
