Actually, if you would go and watch the barbie movie instead of bitching about it you would find a very good Oscar worthy movie which humorously points out several flaws in our current society hiding in plain sight.
And truly, what or who is bigger then oppenheimer in modern history? The man literally changed the world and is more or less the reason behind the longest period of peace in the west and beyond. It turned out that fear, deterrence, is the only thing that keeps war away.
They got that message loud and clear in Iran and Northern Korea. Especially after what happened in Libya and Syria.
Anyway, politic bullshit aside so far 2023 is, I think, a very good year for cinema.
Next to that I've seen this meme repeat itself yearly over the last five years. It's getting tiresome. It's time to think up a new one.
Not to derail your point, but I am 100% positive that the meme isn't saying Barbie is a bad movie at all. This meme isn't near as deep as you're giving it credit for.
It's making the observation that Hollywood has eroded its creative foundation to the point that there have only been two movies that anyone is talking about this year. Whereas in years past there would be dozens.
I have certainly noticed that over the last few years I care less and less about yet another Marvel movie or remake of an awesome 80s or 90s movie. It's extremely obvious why masterful productions like Barbie and Oppenheimer stand out above everything else this year. These would have been great movies in the 90s too, but they would have actually been competing against substantially more films that are worth talking about.
Studios used to make more films at lower budgets. Now they put all their eggs in fewer baskets. Theatres are struggling with the low volume of new releases.
Interestingly, Margot Robbie, the actress for Barbie, is actually a Lemmy user. I randomly found her in a thread talking about the movie industry strikes.
She is also the moderator of !android@lemmy.world.
Such a multi-talented actress!
I've been going through that account's posts and I legitimately can't tell if it's actually her or not.
I didn't believe you at first, but it seems to check out! That's awesome!
She is cooler and cooler the more I learn about her.
I mean this is kinda bs. We had some really good movies released this year as well.
Barbie - besides all the bitching on lemmy, it's actually a good movie
Oppenheimer - Maybe an all time classic
Spiderman Across the Multiverse - maybe one of the best superhero movies ever
Super Mario Bros - Not my type of movie but a commercial hit
Guardians of the Galaxy - Another really good superhero movie
John Wick 4 - Super fun movie
And that's just halfway through the year.
Edit: and mission impossible this year too
We also had the new Mission Impossible movie which was a really good action flick.
The Equalizer 3 and Indiana Jones as well.
1999 was a good year too.
Fight Club
The Matrix
Sixth Sense
10 Things I Hate About You
The Mummy
Magnolia
Eyes Wide Shut
Being John Malkovich
Dogma
The Iron Giant
On the other hand, the crappy live action Flintstones movie came out in 1994, so it wasn't all winners.
At least they tried more options it seems like. Now it's the same formulaic garbage with a good film every once in a while.
Also Dumb and Dumber!
Crazy that Jim Carrey put out three huge movies in one year!
We used to make midbudget movies. Of those, probably speed is the most expensive and it’s budget wasn’t insane.
It’s good they are coming back
Budgets in dollars.
GUMP = 55m approx
Pulp = 8m
Shawshank = 25m
Interview = 60m
Natural Born Killers = 34m
True Lies = 115m
Maverick = 75m
The Mask = 23m
Ace Ventura = 15m
Speed = 30m
The Crow = 23m
Films seem more expensive today regardless of inflation, but I'm all for more mid budget, more varied films coming out again too
Edit: formatting.
Legend.
I glossed over True Lies in the original list. Completely missed it.
Obviously that has the highest budget. Probably half of it is just the F16 set piece at the end.
What I’ve learned from this list is that period pieces are way more expensive than I thought.
I assume Interview, Maverick, and Gump are all inflated just due to the historical sets.
Inflation calculator says a 1990 was worth 2.3 times more, so most of those budgets are still tiny.
Holy shit, Pulp Fiction was done on $8.5 million. That seems absurdly cheap. I honestly figured it would be closer to Ace Venture, cost-wise.
Also The Crow and The Mask having matching budgets surprises me. I always assumed The Mask was a more expensive film given the amount of CG work it needed.
The Lion King and Shawshank Redemption also came out that year. There are probably other great ones, but I think those two have longer lasting influence than at least half the movies in this list.
Shawshank is literally at the top of this list...
Good point about lion king though.
Pulp Fiction too!
Pretty sure if I went back and watched all those and barbie I’d probably enjoy Barbie more.
Only Pulp Fiction and Natural Born Killers stood the test of time - the rest is just meh.
Are you really trying to say The Shawshank Redemption and Forest Gump are just "meh"?
The Shawshank Redemption's political subtext just seems so utterly naive today - and Forest Gump's is downright alt-historical.
Speed is just cop-prop, Interview With A Vampire glorifies yet another Antebellum South slave owner, The Crow is just right-wing revenge fantasy in goth clothing, and Ace Ventura's gross transphobia is so fucking ick it might just as well be used as a TERF training documentary.
Oh, and Maverick just wasn't that good to start off with.
Sooo... "meh" is still generous, methinks.
Literally 1994
Ah yes, nostalgic gatekeeping bullshit. Kindly go fuck yourself
For any indie movie goers, how has the indie scene been compared to the 90's?
Indie horror scene is killing it lately :)
Yup, I saw almost all of them in theater when they were released, except Shawshank I never saw it, yeah I know it's about the best movie in the world, but I never saw it, go figure. And I have not seen Maverick too.
Idk, there's been a ton of great horror movies released this year and last year
which ones?
Trying to think off the top of my head so I'm probably forgetting a lot but for 2023:
- Beau is Afraid
- Evil Dead Rise
- Knock at the Cabin
- The Boogeyman (haven't watched but heard it's good)
- BlackBerry (Not horror but also a great 2023 movie)
For 2022:
- The Menu
- Pearl
- Bodies Bodies Bodies
- Black Phone
- Mad God
- A Wounded Fawn
- Men
- X
- Spoonful of Sugar
- Barbarian (thanks mr_sifl)
I think there's a lot of good movies coming out but they just don't get the same kind of social media attention as the biggest ones like Oppenheimer or Barbie
They were so scary the people who watched them needed therapy to forget the name of the movie and so we are left with one big mystery
