Trump told donors he will crush pro-Palestinian protests, deport demonstrators - The Washington Post (Gifted article, no paywall)
Trump told donors he will crush pro-Palestinian protests, deport demonstrators - The Washington Post (Gifted article, no paywall)
Funny how the usual suspects aren't in here complaining about this. Meanwhile, Joe Biden doesn't kowtow their every policy wish and he's the devil.
Nope, they'd rather scream about "not voting for the lesser of two evils" full well knowing that if they don't that the likelihood of Trump becoming president and having MUCH worse policies for the Palestinians becomes much greater.
But hey, why care about the realities of a situation when you can scream about principles or something?
Trump becoming president and having MUCH worse policies for the Palestinians becomes much greater.
Oh you mean Donald "Let's try to move our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem because appearing neutral in the Israel/Palestine mess is hurting my chances of re-election" Trump? That guy? People actually think he's going to be better for Palestinians? Really?
I'm sorry that you think actually-murdered Gazans versus hypothetical future murders aren't "realities" to be considered, just principles, or that you think choosing between 2 people who both profess backing policies that will result in said murders, is a normal choice to be making as an electorate.
Trump should already be in prison, for any number of crimes. So should Biden. That neither are, is an indicator of how "well" our system is working.
There is a fine line between "working from within a system to change it" and "validating and reifying the system, by being a willing participant". If you are finding that your participation is not having the impact you intend, perhaps you should consider what side of that line you're actually on?
I'm glad other people are noticing the propagandist nature of the people you're talking about.
For specificity's sake, we're talking about the people who drumbeat on "genocide," lay the entirety of the blame for that at Biden's feet, and push not voting for Biden as the "solution." They also so very carefully leave out important details like how congressional Republicans are putting forward legislation that would disallow Biden from pausing arms shipments to Israel (which Biden has said he'd veto).
And the propagandists aren't here in this thread because that doesn't work in this context. That being the context of reality where another Trump presidency would so very obviously be exponentially worse, not just for Palestinians, but for all manner of people in multiple places around the world, including the United States.
I am 100% in favor of criticizing the US' relationship with Israel, especially considering Israel's present actions against civilians. I would also like to maintain a US government that allows such criticism.
I am probably one of the "usual suspects" you are referring to, if that's "people who believe Biden should be as accountable for his actions as anyone else, and not excused for participation in a genocide based on whether ignoring that is more convenient for me".
It's 9am where I am, so this article was posted at 5am my time. Sorry if I didn't telepathically detect this post in my sleep, and arrive fast enough for your liking, to express my opposition to Trump.
This is completely illegal and unconstitutional, and is exactly why we should not even be allowing Trump to be a candidate. Sadly, no one with the power to stop him is doing so, because it serves too many peoples' interests.
Also, I can't post what I believe should be done about/ to Trump on Beehaw, as it would not adhere to Bee-ing Nice.
As a side note, it's also hilarious to me that you don't seem to realize that the "usual suspects" in this case, are those of us who Trump is talking about deporting.
I'd love to know the stats on the demographics of the pro-Palestinian protestors. Exactly how many American citizens is Trump proposing randomly dumping in another country because he doesn't like what they're saying?
“And you know, you go back through history, this is like just before the Holocaust. I swear. If you look, it’s the same thing,” Trump said. “You had a weak president or head of the country. And it just built and built. And then, all of a sudden, you ended up with Hitler. You ended up with a problem like nobody knew.”
So Trump is claiming that Biden is a weak leader, and that after the weak leader comes somebody like Hitler. Trump hopes to be the person that comes after Biden...
I really hope for the sake of North America that they don't vote Trump in again.
Like sure the current situation isn't great. But holy hell was it bad with Trump lol. In Canada it made a ton of bad actor politicians come out of the woodwork and copy his play book. So his behavior is spreading.
In 2016 Hillary Clinton funded the Donald Trump campaign in hopes to bolster elements of the Republican Party so dangerous that voters would be forced to vote for Democrats under duress. This is the culmination of the DNC strategy since now under duress we must materially support genocide to prevent immediate physical danger from a lawless rogue government who would also continue that genocide.
In 2010 the ability for the United States to exist democratically was ended through the Citizen's United Supreme Court decision. Democracy can't withstand the full unimpeded force of capital determining the potential candidates for the people to vote for and writing the bills those candidates vote on. This is aside from the fact that the better funded congressional candidate wins election over 90% of the time, and while this correlation does not prove causation, a different correlation is that congressional voting behavior strongly correlates with the desires of campaign funders and correlates not at all with the polling of their constituents.
Voting for Biden under duress at this time is probably necessary (at this point it seems clear losing the election to Trump is not their greatest fear), but unfortunately if we hope to salvage this system more is required of people than voting. I'm not sure if actual non-fictional human beings are capable of what is required right now, so hopefully whatever this system turns into can eventually be overcome and not replaced by something even worse.
All this to say Trump being a king bastard doesn't negate Biden also being a king bastard who has probably done more damage to peoples' lives and the health of our society just with the Crime Bill than anything Trump did. Trump has promised to do worse than any president of the last few decades has done and since the ever increasing stress levels in our culture are causing more of us to lose our minds, explicit fascism (Christian Nationalism is our openly fascist movement) is now a possibility in addition to our existing issues of racism and capitalism. Preventing the worse case is not saving anything and also won't prevent the possibility of a worse worse case in the future. Everyone voting for Biden is doing so against their will. Trump, having cult charisma, has a number of delusional sociopaths who support him. Winning this election means winning the prize of more of our humanity being commodified and a continuation of old fashioned school of "do it or I'll kill you" in international relations with countries with a non-white majority. With the internet, information is freer than ever and that appears to be having some effect, so if I have any hope it's that we will hit a tipping point which causes the majority of us to peacefully transition into a system less vulnerable to corruption.