Using any DE be like:

I find having an operating system is bloat.

• KDE is the best if you want customize without editing yaml or xml or you just new to Linux
• XFCE, LXDE, MATE, & CINNAMON are the best if you have very old system but still want to have some customization.
• I3, SWAY, & OPENBOX are the best if you feel need little bit challenge to customize
• NO GUI (CLI) is the best if you feel DE is bloat or systemd is bloat or wanna feel like Hollywood movie hackers

After decades of using different window managers, fixing broken configs with major updates, fretting about multi monitor config etc I started using GNOME. It might not look as sleek but I’m a lot more productive now.

In the end I’m just glad we have so many choices.

The KDE to GNOME should have been "imagine not having standard min max window titlebar buttons by default" with each following DE dunking on GNOME for the same reason.

Seriously, what degenerate thought this was a good idea. Even gesture spamming Mac users still have their standard GUI in case they want to use the mouse like a normal person or idk someone not fluent in computers wants to use the machine without feeling like chopping their hand off.

Honestly the lack of customizability is the least of my worries with Gnome.

Why the FUCK doesn't it have a SYSTEM TRAY without an extension?

Like it's one thing to be minimalistic and opinionated.

It's another thing entirely to opt out of basic system functionality that has been part of every OS since 1997. Like fuck.

Edit: Also how fun that this is how I find out Hyprland is cooked due to internet drama and 4chan bullshit.

Can someone fill me in about "Hyprland being banned from FreeDesktop"?

KDE is my GOAT

Imagine having only one big task (displaying text) and not even supporting ligatures.

"Calling out" gnome for needing extensions for customization seems stupid when those extensions are easy to find, easy to use, and work really well. On the other hand, I have not been able to find a taskbar for plasma that would let me group windows from an application together while also letting me rearrange the windows inside of a group. I know I need to try implementing it myself someday, but I feel like gnome ends up having more options.

What are the icons for?

I know gnome, and the 3 that have their name in the logo (xfce, sway, tty).

I’m going back to Slackware. Can’t keep up with this shit any more.

Anyone praising GNOME can be dismissed if they forget to define client-side decorations for their comment.

(this comment was made by The Entire Desktop *nix Ecosystem Except GNOME gang)

Cinnamon is neat. That's it

wait hyprland is banned from freedesktop? what???

I remember a HackerNews comment by the lead XFCE dev about how KDE was actually better optimized, because they have so many more devs working on it.

imagine being so uncustomizable that you’re customizable

Isn’t really a good argument, even though this is silly

incostimizible

Is this some GUI thing I'm too CLI to understand?

how does having extensions that customize the desktop make it not customisable

Hells yes, Alacritty is my jam

I need myself a tilling compositor

Imagine not playing games

Sorry but a tty is just a teletype terminal, using a tty could just as easily mean using kitty, alacritty, gnome terminal or the one you get if you were to use your shell as an init system (not sure what that would be called). You don't switch from a tty to Alacritty, as you're still just in a tty.

Also to my knowledge kitty has hardware acceleration too.

Sorry to be nitpicking but I think knowing that tty isn't just what you get when you press ctrl+alt+f2 is important for a deeper understanding of the operating system.

Next is Dwm

tty: imagine requiring graphics mode

There's kmscon, tho.

Where's enlightenment and windowmaker?

Imagine NOT being banned from FreeDesktop

HYPRCURSOR NOW.

What's the teardrop logo and why is it banned from FreeDesktop?

labwc: imagine not having a window decorations