"Tanky" and the perception of Lemmy.
"Tanky" and the perception of Lemmy.
I've been trying to make people aware of Lemmy on discord and Mastodon, but it's always met with resistance citing "the devs are pro authoritarianism tankies." Kbin seems to be picking up steam because of the developer baggage.
Do you feel like this negative perception will hamstring Lemmy's growth?
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I'm totally cool with a social network where a variety of political opinions are allowed to be voiced, but the problem comes when criticism of some politics is censored. For example, I'm pretty pro-left/socialist but I also think it's important to point out human rights atrocities like Tiannenmen Square and the Holodomor
Alright since there is a claim here that you are cool with political opinions being voiced, I'm gonna assume that you mean this, and you're not just saying so.
Now since you say that you are pro-left/socialist, I'm gonna assume that you are aware that the west/The US has lied in the past about other countries, and their atrocities? (Iraq, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.) Please follow me here, read, and then judge afterwards. I'm not asking you to believe me fully after a single post, I'm just gonna give you some articles from providers that you probably trust, and I'm going to let you form your own opinion afterward.
Tiananmen Square:
Now these are just the sources that explain this. If you look far enough you will also find pictures of dead Chinese soldiers burned to a crisp, strung up by the neck. These pictures are hard to look at. But maybe you think that the protest was just. Okay. But please understand that even western media does not actually think there was a massacre in the Square.
I'm gonna let someone else handle The Holodomor, as I don't have extensive western sources ready for this one, and I kinda have to get some things done. But understand that a lot of us here used to believe exactly what you do. Then we read a lot about the history of these places, and came to a different conclusion. We are not just people who love murderers in here, we have come to our conclusions through a lot of reading, and a lot of discussion. We are critical of the USSR, China, etc. but we try to be nuanced about this. We understand that a state over decades will do bad things, and we try to learn from this, and try to prevent it from happening again. But it is sometimes a little funny to pretend that we are much more extreme than we are IRL, because liberals are a little funny when they get mad. Sorry, but that's the truth.
I reposted it above
Thx comrade <3
lemmy.ca blocks lemmygrad
Insane that you can reply to someone but they can't read it because of the instance they're on.
I can't wait till this is abused.
@UnderpantsWeevil @ImOnADiet Maybe Lemmygrad isn't federated or they are a new server trying to get federated
Lemmygrad is the foremost communist instance (and by far one of the oldest), its blocked by quite a few instances
@ImOnADiet Got it. Thanks
Yeah I think it’s a weird design choice but it is what it is
Oh really? That sucks. But if we're blocked, how did @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca write in here through lemmy.ca? Did they just block us?
So the way it works, is that we’re on a post from lemmy.world. Since it federates with both lemmy.ca and lemmygrad.ml, users from both instances can make comments on these posts.
Lemmygrad doesn’t block lemmy.ca, so we can see their comments. Lemmy.ca, however, blocks us, so they can’t see our comments
Ah thank you for the explanation. Just got here 5 days ago, so some of the fediverse things still are a bit confusing to me. But no matter, nice to have it written up anyway, I think some of the sources are pretty good to confuse liberals about their beliefs, so hope people here can use them.
Well welcome! Hope you’re enjoying your time here :)
Well it is nice to write about politics without having 20 libs in my replies saying that I am supporting the death of the 86 billion people killed by Communism hahaha. I like it, it's definitely better for my mood, and my eyes finally get to relax after having to roll them every time I scroll through the comments on Reddit.
Another user, holygon, posted from an instance that lemmy.ca blocks and someone else requested a lemmy.ml account repost it. If you want my own opinions, ask and I'll discuss it, but on this comment everything forward is from that user:
Alright since there is a claim here that you are cool with political opinions being voiced, I’m gonna assume that you mean this, and you’re not just saying so.
Now since you say that you are pro-left/socialist, I’m gonna assume that you are aware that the west/The US has lied in the past about other countries, and their atrocities? (Iraq, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.) Please follow me here, read, and then judge afterwards. I’m not asking you to believe me fully after a single post, I’m just gonna give you some articles from providers that you probably trust, and I’m going to let you form your own opinion afterward.
Tiananmen Square:
Now these are just the sources that explain this. If you look far enough you will also find pictures of dead Chinese soldiers burned to a crisp, strung up by the neck. These pictures are hard to look at. But maybe you think that the protest was just. Okay. But please understand that even western media does not actually think there was a massacre in the Square.
I’m pretty pro-left/socialist but
The Lib-Leftist Caveat. AES States never survive the Western smell test, for some crazy reason. You can only do Leftism my way.