A highway camera photo shows traffic in FortMcMurray jammed in the southbound lane of Highway 63 on the north side of the Athabasca River. The image was captured at 3:11 p.m. MT, about an hour after an evacuation order was issued for four neighbourhoods. (511 Alberta)
How is mass transit not more practical? You get hundreds of people on a single train, get them to a safe spot, and support the population with last-mile transit.
You can route as many extra trains as possible to go back and forth, getting way more people through.
OP's photo has fewer people in just that pic than could fit on a train, and yet they're all going to be sitting in traffic for hours, endangering everyone.
It's very dependent in what city needs to be evacuated. I've lived in Ft McMurray, the city in this picture and its remote. It's almost 500km from Edmonton, the next nearest big city, where most of these people will be evacuated to. Even if there was passenger rail service up to there each round trip would be over 10 hours. Evacuating almost 70k people by rail would not be feasible in this situation, not that it wouldn't be a good option during an emergency in less remote city.
I think the problem is sending the trains back in. Depending on the reason for the evacuation it could be prohibitively dangerous. And then there are people waiting for the train to come back.
I would say an evacuation is one of the best use cases of cars I can think of. Cars are most likely packed with people and stuff and not just single drivers commuting. Everyone can start at a different point and - even more important - head into a different direction once you left the immediate surroundings of the evacuation zone. And cars are at - least temporarily - indepenent from energy infrastructure. If you have a power outage in an area, many cars will still have sufficient fuel or electricity in board to reach the next working petrol or charging station.
I just moved to a community that has a higher likelihood of forest fires. For the past weeks I wasn't bothering to fully charge my electric car but with the fire season starting I decided to do the opposite. I'm going to keep my car between 70-80 percent charged so if we need to evacuate then we can take our vehicles and animals with us. I don't want to leave the car near the house where it could explode in a fire.
are there any actual sources that adding more lanes does more harm than good? People bitch about it all the time and i always hear the
"one more lane" joke going around, but I've never actually seen any papers or articles about it. Just pictures of large highways with traffic jams.
This is definitely strange to me, but they might not be equipped to handle this. Here in Texas, as you go closer to the gulf coast/Houston, you'll see hurricane markers on the side of the highways to indicate it's an evacuation path. Both sides are turned into north/west flow for throughput. I imagine that comes with traffic coordination to keep normal traffic flow to the access roads
I’m not sure I see this one to be honest. As bad as a car-dense city is for everything else, it’s probably the best option if the whole city had to be evacuated.
A large portion of alternate transport is focused within the city (trams, bikes, subways, etc). I suppose at least busses could be re-purposed for evacuation, but it requires a whole lot more organization.
Also, I sincerely doubt that the city would have enough busses to carry the whole population simultaneously (it would never really make sense to have that many busses), and in this case, the nearest population center is a four hour drive away.
Although, if there were a high speed rail link between Fort McMurray and Edmonton, that would take a lot of pressure off.
if people were evacuating on a train, that would be absolute chaos. It would be standing room only, people would be packed together as tightly as possible, everyone would try to save at least one large material possession and they'd either take up space with it, fight with someone who touched it on accident, or fight with the emergency responders for saying they can't bring it along.