r/programmerhumour announced they would go privately indefinitely cause of this. Here's hoping a lot more subreddits join in, and hoping u/spez regrets every dumb decision he's made in the pasts few months.
Exactly. It’s like saying you’re going to go on strike for two days and then come back. Like, the employer will just feel more validated in their actions if you do that.
Digging in their heels like this just convinces me that I made the right decision as soon as Christian Selig went public with his post. This goes way deeper than just them not listening to moderators and app developers. The CEO of Reddit is willing to kill the platform if we don't get in line—fuck spez. I hope reddit dies a thousand deaths a day as people migrate to the fediverse that fits them best.
I have to imagine he thinks people hate Reddit for some irrational unfathomable reasons, rather than just him and the other executives for their actual behavior.
It 100% is. As a customer service manager for a software company, I can say - you wouldn't believe some of the threats we get, just while operating normally, and people are pissed about this.
“There’s a lot of noise with this one. Among the noisiest we’ve seen. Please know that our teams are on it, and like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass as well,” the memo reads. “We absolutely must ship what we said we would. The only long term solution is improving our product, and in the short term we have a few upcoming critical mod tool launches we need to nail.”
In other words, the blackout is not being taken that seriously. The culling of 3rd party apps is still happening. I hope more subreddits decide to go dark indefinitely, and that Redditors keep migrating to Lemmy.
We have not seen any significant revenue impact so far and we will continue to monitor.
There’s your answer on how it’s affecting reddit. May be it’s spez just blushing, but I hope this is a wake up call for the two day blackout subs and they do it indefinitely.
Two days isn't significant enough to register as a real change. Especially since I assume most advertisers have ongoing contracts based on longer periods.
If you want to see an actual revenue impact, the blackout has to go long enough that advertisers have time to start scaling back or even withdrawing from the platform.
Well, considering the phone calls with the apollo dev, his trustworthiness is already shot. I would be very surprised if this didn't affect revenue seeing how there's thousands of people not buying awards now. That's not even getting into ad views.
If everyone who's not using reddit was already using a 3P ad free app, it's possible they're saving money on bandwidth while still serving the same number of ads
This is a good thermometer reading. I'm pretty sure many communities are prepared to extend this indefinitely if current plans aren't reverted. I do believe him when he says
We absolutely must ship what we said we would.
I don't know who the angry VCs are who get to pull his strings but if this gets their attention - it may or it may not - reddit might budge on things a bit.
At the end of the day the company is hopeless to make a profit with him at the helm. This memo sounds slightly nervous and lacks confidence. He has no clue what he's doing.
Just replace a drug by another one. Just like e-cigarette is used to replace the old product. Maybe you just need to inhale more Lemmy to change your addiction (and good news Lemmy is healthier) XD
While he's probably right, the blackout is giving Reddit users the chance to return to old sources of news and entertainment, or encouraging them to try new communities like Lemmy. Ideally the blackouts continue, but I think the biggest threat to Reddit is a long-game when other alternatives become viable.
Won’t pass for me. I’d rather quit social media entirely than be inundated with nfts, ads, and shitty UI. I’d pay a premium happily to not have to deal with that. But that’s not an option.
I’ll support whatever alternative seems best as long as it seems worthwhile. I like it here so far. Hope y’all stay and keep posting.
Reddit black out needs to keep going.
Reddit communities should move to Lemmy or kbin.
All reddit communities are self moderated by the people who love their selective communities.
There is no need to scum to a company that cares more about making a buck than to the people that make reddit, reddit.
Still hoping all the mobile developers come together and make a competitor. I like Lemmy but hard to beat how Reddit is structured and the size of the communities is an advantage. Also wouldn't mind seeing Reddit's public offering be a disaster.
Not sure if you typically browse on mobile and have an Android, by I'm using an app called Jerboa that has a very similar feel to some of the 3rd party Reddit apps. So far, so good 👍
NP: I think that we are in an absolute moment of change for what you might call the Web 2.0 era. Have you thought about “I’m just going to take my users and go build a Reddit for ActivityPub”?
DP: Even more specifically, one thing a lot of users have been saying is, “We’re leaving Reddit; we’re gonna go to Lemmy and Kbin!” Those are the two that I keep hearing about. Is there a move that way that you think is real, that you might want to be part of?
Apollo dev: It’s tricky because, to a certain extent, that does sound really interesting. But with Mastodon, for instance, I love it, but I’ve seen so many people — even in the tech community, who totally have the means to make that move if they want to — who have just been too intimidated or just can’t get off Twitter for some reason. In the back of my head, I’m like, if these people who are much smarter than me can’t make that change, is this just like a short-term thing?
It’s hard for me to build another thing. If it just evaporated again, it would be like a double breakup. This has been so exhausting for the last few months. The amount of work it would take to port all the API endpoints over to Lemmy or Kbin or something, that would be a gargantuan amount of work that I’m not sure I have the capacity for. And then just the complexity of making it work. Long term, it’s a big question mark for me that, at this stage, I’m not sure I’m totally interested in pursuing. But it’s also one of those things where I completely wish it the best. And if something that was decentralized kind of became the norm, I think that would definitely be a win for everybody.
Goes without saying the CEO really fucked this whole situation. I never would have sought out an alternative to Reddit if he hadn't decided to start all this API nonsense. But hey, in a way I'm glad he did. I never would have found lemmy otherwise. As a fan of open source material myself, I'd rather be here anyway.
Never commented much on Reddit, but I plan to be active here as much as possible. I want to see this community grow!
This doesn't surprise me, during the whole process they didn't even try to pretend that they were listening.
The thing that really gets me is how poorly they communicated: slandering the Apollo dev, ignoring mod's concerns, lying, not giving enough notice, and having the audacity to hold an "AMA" but answer basically none of the questions.
Like if you're going to go through with this change at the bear minimum you could be professional about it. But they way they did it was very arrogant and impatient.
Looking at the Blackout Tracker it seems a few subs have folded early - r/adviceanimals and r/travel being the largest. Also the news subs and random ones like r/movies or r/photoshopbattles never joined in - were they not on board of their own choice, or controlled from on high?