We need to stop calling them "zionists" and start calling them "violent land grabbing fascists with no qualms about genocide".
Replace "Zion" with "the third Reich" and you can't tell if a quote is from a modern day Israel supporter or a fucking nazi
The idea that Jews need their own state "to be safe" feels anti-Semitic to me. It's like admitting that antisemitism exists everywhere and instead of fighting it we just move the Jewish people somewhere else so it won't be a problem.
Because it was...
The Allies didn't fight WW2 to save the Jewish people.
Only half of the Holocaust victims were because they were Jewish, WW2 was about Germany invading everyone.
So after the war, the reason for creating Israel wasn't some kind of reparation, it was because even the Allies were incredibly bigoted and still didn't want Jewish populations in their countries. So England picked some occupied land they controlled in the Middle East, kicked out the inhabitants and "gave" it to a religion. Which has literally never resulted in peace in all of human history.
They 100% knew this would create more problems. But it ensured those problems would happen far away from Europe.
If you want to understand why Europe didn't like Jewish populations, it's because for centuries Christianity didn't allow charging another Christian interest.
Rich Christians stopped loaning money since they couldn't make money from it. And Jewish citizens filled that role. Even after Christianity got rid of that rule, Jewish lenders were already established.
The hatred people had with Jewish citizens, was really just hatred of capitalism. It's just the only time they interacted with Jewish people was taking out loans and other financial stuff.
It's just most people only know the incredibly simplified fairy tale version they learned in history class decades ago.
"The idea that the jewish people deserve self determination after suffering from millenia of discrimiation and going through the most industrious genocide in history feels anti-semitic to me."
yeah, an absolutely wild take. You're not helping Palestinians by denying the jewish people's right for self-determination.
I guess it's because they are very different situations. The student settlements aren't meant to be a permanent theft of land, aren't justified "because God promised me someone else's property", and the student protesters are the victims of violence instead of harboring murderers. Don't forget Israel was killing Palestinian youths at a rate of one per a week in the West Bank in 2023 BEFORE Oct. 7th and wounding more.
They lack the secret juices of those doing it believing they're "chosen people" and the whole muslim-bashing (quite literally).
It's not the same thing without the Racist and Fascist violence.
