Showerthoughts @lemmy.world SolomonG @sh.itjust.works 3mo ago

If a God exists then everything humans "create" is like the meme "I made this, you made this?...I made this".

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-made-this

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You have it the wrong way round; humans invented god.
- Can you not just leave it out for a bit? It's irritating now.
  
  This is Lemmy. You cannot go 5 posts without someone acting like a 2007 edgy internet atheist. I assume this is where they all ended up.
- 'one of these days, boris, we're going to look into our microsocopes and find ourselves staring into gods eyes and the first one who blinks is going to lose his testicles'
Tolkien called this idea “sub-creation,” suggesting that only God could create, in the complete sense of the word. But that humans, being made in God’s image, would by their nature strive to create. Anything we create uses what God gave us and would therefore be a lesser order of creation, thus sub-creation.
- Tolkien called this idea “sub-creation,”
  
  Excellent comment! Thanks for sharing that!
- How high are you?
  
  5'11"
  
  Yes
A step further and we can see the hubris in some religious ideas about not using manmade stuff because we're "playing god". If God didn't want us to have it, we wouldn't have it. That cancer treatment or dialysis is god sending you the help you prayed for.
At some point God might say "I don't know if I can make it better than this, but I'll give it a try if you'll help me out."
Is he holding a christingle or sputnik?
What? Most religious dogma is predicated upon free will, meaning we are capable of rearranging things according to our own machinations.

It would be like bacteria in a petri dish reorganising and reproducing, but it's still creation in a sense separated from the creator.
- “If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.” ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
  
  But We are not making a pie from scratch, We are making it from basic building blocks of universe.
  
  Also in this meme human and God are equal and this isn't true. Humans are in itself creation of God.
  
  So God provides being and materials for us to create stuff with.
You think the guy that made open ai made everything it'll come up with?
- If the open AI guy made the training data, the hardware, and every electron, then yes.
If God exists, and God owns everything, does that mean that I'm shitting God's pants?

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