Everywhere online now, every movie, every home video, has been passed through so many filters that people don't look human any more. Nobody has any lines in their face, their teeth are florescent white, their eyes are filled in and have no veins. Nobody ever looks tired, or natural. Add to the mix the fact that everyone is getting lip implants to look like a blowfish, and I'm just tired of it. I miss seeing real human beings.
QI (if you like Stephen Fry, British humour, and learning random facts). Most of the guests are pretty "normal people" looking. Except when Victoria Coren Mitchell is on. She always look fabulous.
The Gentlemen is pretty good. The movie or the show. Fuck, anything by Guy Ritchie. He's good at showing the dirty edges of things as well as the pretty.
Definitely. Outside the US tv or films tend to spend far less effort/budget on effects, and that particularly includes how much “correction” is applied to how the people look. Like people having shiny skin or wrinkles. People look like people.
Duck lips are so disgusting. I just want to shake a bottle of Benadryl at them and ask if they are having an allergic reaction or something.
"Did you get stung by a bee? You might want to see a doctor about that."
Plastic surgery is intended to make you look beautiful, not ugly. Are we in opposite world???
Plastic surgery is intended to make you look beautiful, not ugly. Are we in opposite world???
It's just meant to mark you as high status.
Being part of that elite group has social and material benefits, so there's plenty of reason for people employ these kind of identity markers. Elite groups often have onerous behavior or other requirements - body modification like plastic surgery is quite common. Cranial deformation, foot binding, etc.
There's an actress in Three Body Problem who is completely distracting because of all her plastic surgery, makeup, and filters. She's supposed to be a doctorate of physics, but she looks like a TikTok influencer. Every scene with her destroyed any immersion that the scenes without her had established.
Well, I wouldn't say that plastic surgery is intended to make you look beautiful. It's intended to alter your looks in the way that you prefer. All that matters is that the person getting it done is happy with the result. Not some other random person who isn't them.
Also, beauty standards change a lot. Just look at how fashion changed from the middle ages through the Renaissance and after. You can tell what features were important by how garments were designed.
I'm not a fan of duck lips either, but I also don't have to get them.
People still looked human as late as the 90's, even though they look like extraordinary people. Movies from the 70's and early 80's look completely different.
Edit: I think they didn't really start with the AI filters until idk, 10 years ago?
I'm convinced that part of the reason of this over processing is because of streaming. You can compress a movie or show far FAR more when colors are smooth and uniform (I know this from compressing multiple hundreds of movies and TV shows). So now that everyone is "streaming all the things" they have to look for ways to get 4k out the door and to the normal consumer who might only have 100mb internet.
Edit: not defending it, just sharing my observations as a media enthusiast.
I'm mean, they are both methods to do the same thing (get smaller sized videos) and it doesn't have to be one of the other, both can be used. With better compression you can stream higher resolution.
I know pornstars and porn makeup and porn production changed. Many women left the industry in response, directly/indirectly. I read it in a really fascinating article from way back, so it's kinda fuzzy but that was the gist. Then we got Sasha Grey (。♡‿♡。) I wonder if those are connected.
Pornstars are younger and more beautiful than they were in the SD era, but look more "normal" and less like brokendown strippers. But things like lip injections and Botox play well on camera, but look fucking awful in person. I feel like I'm honing in on some thesis statement but I'm on the toilet so whatever.
watch some local theater, although the actors are always done up in stage makeup, it usually is a good down to earth experience
especially local civic theater, maybe you could volunteer your time with a local theater and then come back and remind yourself why the medium was cherished.
Movies and television use makeup and special effects to make the actors look exactly how they are supposed to look in the scene. Young and vigorous, old and tired, strung out, beat up, it's almost never "real" even when it is supposed to look real.
Home movies, yeah autofilters are weird. I make home movies for future me and people who care about me. Why would I want them to remember someone who doesn't look like me? But then I'm not the target audience for video filters.
Why would I want them to remember someone who doesn't look like me?
Exactly! It's even a problem with professional videoconferencing programs like Zoom. When you meet someone on Zoom it's always somewhat of a shock when you meet them in person.
Sometimes I wonder if it's the modern, absurd extension of the stage makeup concept, taken to the extreme.
My ex-wife was a professional dancer, and her stage makeup made her look absolutely insane in person. But under stage lighting, it looked amazing.
Sometimes I wonder if cosmetic surgery was initially incorporated as something that would bring more popularity or work to an actor, because it would make them look more striking under the absurd, unreal lighting conditions of tv and film.
And that this has gotten completely carried away. Especially now, since nearly all cinema is greenscreen with scenery digitally added later. Which brings a tremendous amount of lighting incongruity, so we end up needing block-like, exaggerated, un-contoured faces, slathered in 42 layers of stage makeup, to look "proper" under these conditions.
I don't know if this is totally out to lunch or not.
Right. If I talk about Bollywood, many old actors, that are 50+, are still portraying roles of men in 30s. For example, Akshay Kumar's skin in almost every new film is smoothed out to give him a younger look, Slaman Khan always has 6-8 pack abs even though he is sightly fatter in reality, etc.
I don't understand the endgame with posting fake pictures if you are actually looking for dates. I mean, presumably you will see each other in real life, wouldn't the look of disappointment be kinda soul crushing? I don't photograph well and honestly the only time I was glad about that was the brief foray into the world of meeting guys online. It was kinda nice to be able to show up looking better than the pictures.
Also, OP - I don't think yours is an unpopular opinion - I thought you were going to be complaining about the more extreme styles we see around now. Online photo editing I thought was pretty universally held in disdain. It's harmful in so many ways. People editing themselves then wishing they looked like the edited pictures. People seeing pictures they think are real but have been nipped and tucked with Photoshop, then being upset they can't have those proportions at any weight (because most of us have ribs!).
Though to be fair, the push for unnatural proportions predates the editing software, I remember my mom telling me that in "her day" girls had smaller waists and bigger hips, and I was skeptical because evolution doesn't work that fast, both me & my sister are built more straight up and down, were skinny. When I asked for clarification she said it was foam rubber and girdles, it was a style they achieved by padding out the butt and hips. So smaller waist yes, smaller all around, but not somehow magically all curvy. Regular skinny with foam padding.
That sounds really difficult. It was already hard back in the MySpace days just because of what people could do with camera angles, lighting, and makeup. Catfishing is probably a whole different league now.
I remember meeting a girl on Myspace and she ended up taller than me and ... portly. I almost wanted to suggest a career behind the camera because of the shit she pulled off.
Agree, and it does seem like it's an unpopular opinion. I was just talking with someone the other day that I miss people looking like human beings in movies and TV. I forget what we were watching but it was something from the 80s and we remarked how the entire fantastic cast could not get hired today.
I can't speak to the new Indiana Jones as I haven't seen it, but the issue people generally have with aging action movie stars is how unrealistic it is. See, Liam Neeson in his recent films, Robert De Niro in The Irishman, Steven Seagal, etc.
Trying to convince the audience that a 75 year old can sprint for 100m after dispatching a gang of thugs, and suffering a gunshot wound is as hard to believe as a 65 year old woman having the body and skin of a woman half her age. People value authenticity and realistic standards to some degree.
After the opening flashback, the film shows 80 year old Indy shuffling around his apartment in his underwear looking every minute of his 80 years on earth.