Reddit's pathetic attempt to quash dissent

Here's a screenshot so you don't give the site any traffic

Let me get this straight- they want mods to have live business meetings with them? As if they're employees?

I love that everyone is mad in the thread

I'm also confused why they're still on Reddit and not over here. Join us, content creators and talented people.

No mention of the tools they fucked up that they are replacing? Just a bunch of meetings for people who aren't employees? Lmao get bent.

Hey ChatGPT, write me a tone deaf, mealy mouthed, corporate doublespeak screed that completely ignores everything that’s happened for the last month. Be sure and add lots of bullshit about how we will now “listen to mods” and have useless meetings every month.

They can't even do bullshit PR correctly. You do the listening tour before the steady stream of unpopular decisions that go against the feedback you just collected.

Lol this saga is just too funny to me now that I’ve jumped ship. The admins just keep digging

Holy cow. They're treating them like employees... Or subjects being given hours in which they can petition the king.

The type of people who would subject themselves to this are... I don't know man. I really don't.

Honestly I moved over here a couple months ago and haven't had the urge to look back. I love this place.

Out of curiosity I read that post and top comments. That place just smells tainted now. If that post is on tenth accurate I feel bad for anyone that feels the need to stay and be part of that drama.

The fediverse has felt just so much more comfortable and safe. I hope it stays this way.

The way they talk to the mods is absolutely infuriating and the "best" part is they they don't even recognize it themselves.

They are “inviting” mods to do even more free work in furtherance of Reddits profitability

I see that negative vote count has been removed and now the post just says "0". We're living in the thin-skin age.

Why any moderator is still giving that website their time I have no idea. Is it just an addiction at this point? Just leave, the reddit owners actively mock you and despise you.

Good Lord that admin is insufferable.

They nuked almost all my accounts the other day. I talked a bunch of shit on the direction they are going and missing Aaron's leadership. I walked away and here I am. One account I never log in on and with only 3 posts, perma banned. It was obviously targeted...

Fuck Reddit and fuck everyone running it. During my last months there I was subject to continuous harassment and explicit death threats from one specific troll. When I brought this to the admins, they told me pound sand. They didn't do a fucking thing. Nothing.

I'm very tempted to put together a dossier of all these interactions and start sending emails to marketing departments of the most common reddit advertisers and make sure they understand the platform they are using to sell shit to people.

I think they've realised that they can do pretty much whatever they want, and the majority of their user-base will just vacantly scroll through cat videos and adverts all day long regardless.

The TikTok-ification of the internet marches on.

Completely ignored any questions or comments about PR or the conduct of reddit staff. Answered all of 7 questions, probably plants.

This seems to be their modus operandi for visible communication... Answer a few pre-baked questions to make things look nice for the press. Meanwhile, behind closed doors, it's still a dumpster fire full of tires, oil, and gasoline. One dude is telling all the onlookers to stay calm, while everyone else is throwing wood, paper, water, etc on it to "try" to put it out.

No one should participate in a single meeting until they fire Steve Huffman. They cannot begin to mend the shit relationship they created unless they apologize for his bullshit…and that apology won’t mean anything if he still works there.

Fucking eh. So good to see some honest reddit mods keeping the admins honest. The reddit wide bans for frivolous reasons would be a good improvement too. They went ban-happy for a while there

Any chance for a screenshot or an archive.org link so I don’t have to give the site my eyeballs? :-)

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh wait, they're serious? Sorry, let me fix up my reply a bit...

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Not a great situation overall. Sounds like they're scrambling to give some semblance of support for mods, seems a little late now guys

This comment thread is an example of how to talk to a literal pile of turd.

Edit: wow I really can't believe what pile of crap this admin's saying in them comments...

The only thing u/spez cares about it $$$. It’s not about the communities as a whole anymore. I understand server space isn’t exactly cheap, never has been, but Reddit, unlike Lemmy, is all about profit. There is no way that the ridiculous amount he wants for the api use age is sustainable for anybody that is trying to make Reddit useable for the masses. They just realized they weren’t getting any ad revenue from the apps that he couldn’t convince to show them. When I left reddit every other post was an ad

I wonder if they're just testing the waters to see if the sentiment has changed at all. They'll probably keep posting similar at regular intervals to verify that the backlash is subsiding.

They're aiming to replace the mods with AI, aren't they.

It’s crazy how profit seeking trust fund assholes ruined the internet and the future.

This is the guy that literally answered 2 questions in an AMA. They dont want communication.

"We're gonna listen to your complaints. We're not actually gonna do anything about them, but we will listen to them. Oh, and please don't record our meetings so that when the bad press about these meetings comes out and we lie about them, there won't be proof of us lying this time kthxbye!"

I agree that this post is dumb, but why is Reddit now trying to bury it? Has the OP of that thread been getting blasted in the comments?

This has "I'm just here so I don't get fined" vibes

As in, "we all know a Reddit mod when we see one and we wouldn't be caught dead in a physical room with any of you."

If they had recognised what they had done to piss people off, this post would've done quite alot. If they had said that they fucked up when making the API changes and wanted mods to come help rebuild the API, that alone would've done an impressive amount to lower peoples nerves. They wouldn't have even needed to have acted on the advise. Instead they take zero blame, which imo only pisses more people off.

We’re planning the following locations for 2023 and want to know where else you think we should go.

I can think of a few places I'd like to tell them to go...

Hoffman can’t even let his underling say sorry. “Let’s discuss things in a few months” isn’t a concession it’s a plea.

Next time, please post a screenshot of it. I don’t click on Reddit links. Plus they may change the content or break the link.

Wow. What a shitstorm...

Pathetic.

Pasting here so you don't have to go to Reddit:

Hey mods, u/Go_JasonWaterfalls here, Reddit’s VP of Community. So, we’ve all had a... time on Reddit lately. And I’m here to recognize it, acknowledge that our relationship has been tested, and begin the “now what?” conversation.

Moderators are a vital part of Reddit. You are leaders and stewards of your communities. You are also not a monolith; mods have a diverse set of needs to support the purpose of each community you foster. Our role is facilitation; to enable all of you with a platform you can rely on, and with the tools and resources you need to cultivate thriving communities. Tens of thousands of mods engage daily on Reddit and, in order to enable all of you, we need consistent, inclusive, and direct connection with you. Here are some ways to connect with us.

Weekly Mod Feedback Sessions

We will (virtually) host small groups of mods each week to discuss the needs of users, mods, admins, and communities (including how subreddits are, and should be, governed). Sessions will be weekly on Tuesdays and Thursdays July-October, and continue into the future as valuable. We will summarize and share notes inside the company as well as in r/modnews. Please fill out this form if you are interested.

Reddit Mod Council and Partner Communities

These are ongoing programs between admins and mods to provide feedback, guidance, transparency, and insight into Reddit’s future. We typically hold weekly calls and share notes with all members of those private communities. Learn more about the Partner Community program here, or apply (or nominate a co-mod) to join Reddit Mod Council here.

Accessibility Feedback Group

This group of users, mods, and admins will meet monthly to review and provide feedback on Reddit’s accessibility accommodations and tools. Our next meeting will be in August; please submit this interest form to participate.

Mod Events

In addition to our online Mod Summits, we’re resuming Mod Roadshows and picking up where we ended in 2022, meeting mods in Austin, Delhi, London, Paris, São Paulo, and Toronto. We’re planning the following locations for 2023 and want to know where else you think we should go. Please fill this out to be notified when dates are confirmed and/or to suggest a stop on our tour:

August: Seattle

September: Chicago

October: Bangalore, Birmingham (UK), Chennai, Delhi, Hamburg, London, Mumbai, Pune, São Paulo, Washington DC

November: Lyon, Paris, San Francisco

December: Denver

Lastly, I look forward to hosting you all at our (online) Global Mod Summit, which will be on Dec 2, 2023.

I don’t have an ending to this post, really. Hopefully this post is a beginning.

Honestly at this point any mod left on reddit who thinks things can improve is fucking delusional. I don't even feel bad for them. Most mods opened their subs back up after 48 hours or when they were threatened with replacement from the admins. The entire "protest" was a fucking joke. I think we should just let anyone left on Reddit circle jerk each other and concentrate on building out Lemmy. Fuck Reddit.

Make a screenshot. Don't give them any traffic.

"lapdog" - Viciarg "yap yap,yap"- TheNBGco

I mean, at least he doesnt deny it. Cant make this shit up.

I thought of writing a reply over there and maybe they'd get something out of it, but i think anything said will fall on deaf ears. It would have been short and maybe been more for my benefit then theirs by getting some feelings out (edit: Can of worms opened & were off...).

I joined up on Reddit to interact with some nerds, i thought they were funny. It really helped me get through some trying times, especially watching "The game" and looking forward to its daily updates. Im sad it didnt finish. After the subs mod asked for more mods, i put my hand up and helped out for a bit with another new mod. This mod who asked was effectively running the place.

The active, long time mod sought to gain the top mod position as there were other mods who were doing tens of actions a month while they and the new mods were doing thousands. Reddit knocked the request back saying they counted as active. It was things like approving posts that didnt need to be approved and unstickying posts.

Without going into intermod drama, the active long time mod left and i followed shortly after. I had been spending many hours in the sub, getting rid of spam etc and something hit one day after the ad-free time from a platinum i was gifted ran out and i started seeing ads. I felt that Reddit giving active mods a free premium was the least they could do. I was seeing how much time i spend in the app and had other things to do.

I think Reddit has lost something, it feels different and likely the 3rd party apps have lead to a lot of key contributors leaving. After that kicked off I started putting one foot out the door over there and now i'd say ive got two out. I might stilll drop in sometime, but by will to create has completely gone. And I'm annoyed how r/blind was treated.

I wont be participating in place although i did for place 22 and found it fun. I will be curious about the results though and if someone goes to place extra pixels again. I know they are pushing for an IPO and think it will end up different to however anyone envisaged it happening in January.

I'm happy with Lemmy and this instance and will try my best to be a good participant here in recognition of donated server time and it being run as a hobby. Thanks lemmy.world admins for running and hosting and being open and honest about policies and events.

Has no one told Reddit that they're the baddies now?

Are they expecting to be a close video conference, or they know it would be stream online on twitch?

I do love the replies to this. Some grade A popcorn material.

Can someone link this thread in that Reddit thread to show how their dissent is thriving here with open dialogue, or will that get removed?