New Discord TOS binds you to forced arbitration - Opt-Out Now
New Discord TOS binds you to forced arbitration - Opt-Out Now
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/17618684
Forced arbitration means any legal disputes you may have with Discord must be resolved through a single third party mediator, who 99% of the time is chosen by, and will rule in favor of, the corporation/Discord. This effectively removes all your legal rights as a consumer, because arbitration decisions are legally binding and non-appealable.
The new ToS goes into effect April 15th, 2024.
YOU CAN OPT OUT OF ARBITRATION. You must email arbitration-opt-out@discord.com BEFORE MAY 15TH (30 days after ToS effective date) with your username stating that you wish to opt out of the arbitration clause. Once May 15th passes you are bound to arbitration with Discord forever.
Opt-out before it's too late.
Yeah, good luck enforcing that contract in any country that has a legal concept of "automatically unfair contract terms".
the arbitration terms are explicitly stated to be US only. unfortunately the US is not a country with a functioning legal system
Another company wants to skip liability. https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/pixel-phones-come-w-forced-arbitration-a:9
I wonder how long until they inform us about a data breach.
A TOS isn't legally binding.
That's false.
Any contract is legally binding... except for the parts that go against the law.
I'd suggest consulting a lawyer knowledgeable of your particular jurisdiction, before deciding which part may or may not be binding.
Do I need to worry about this not being in the US? I'm wary of the way I word my opt out incase it causes me some issues down the line
No, this is for US only. Where corporations are permitted to abuse the market and the law (or lack thereof).
We need a Federated FOSS Discord alternative built to work with the activity pub protocol.
Has anybody made a matrix app that looks like a discord clone? That sounds easier since the federated rich text chat is already made, the current clients don't really appeal to the discord crowd.
Cinny is the closest to Discord in terms of UI, it even has a feature where you can show subspaces within a space as if they're categories of a Discord server.
We welcome anyone back to IRC
No we don't. We need small instances, each with their own specific topics and communities that DO NOT share your information far and wide, like the fediverse does. I don't think the fediverse model is the way forward.
But by not sharing anything, you'd loose users who don't want to sign up for each instance individually. I think it would be a good way to be able to sign up once on one instance and then being able to use all other instances available, but the chats etc of one instance being private to the instance itself.
Or… how about we just treat the fediverse like it is a…. public forum…. and use different tools for having more private conversations?
So... Lemmy? Mastodon?
Although I think Matrix is better suited for chat, just need a client with voice/video support.
Thx for the reminder to get to deleting my discord accs
How are we supposed to opt out? By deleting our accounts?
You must email arbitration-opt-out@discord.com BEFORE MAY 15TH (30 days after ToS effective date) with your username stating that you wish to opt out of the arbitration
If you read the post, it says you can opt out by emailing your username to discord
A few years ago, wasn't there a company (maybe it was uber?) that was being overwhelmed by arbitration fee's for a large number of arbitration cases? I forget the outcome, but it may be due to their agreement stipulating they would cover arbitration fees. Either way, forced arbitration needs to go.
Does that applies to accounts registered in the US but now I'm not physically lived in?
